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7Hi People

I've recently come back from the above course taken in Palm Springs by Igor Ledochowski. Now for those who have not heard of him you may want to look up his book 'The Deep Trance Training manual' He also does a cd course in Conversational Hypnosis. It was a week course the first day was given over to wha he calls street hypnosis mainly rapid inductions and the cool stuff.

He uses mainly Ericsonian hypnosis conversationally but what really sets him apart from most of the trainers I have come across is his attitude which boarders on altruistic.Put another way The course was a 2 week course condensed in 5 days with lots of exercises I wouldve expected to pay $4000 for such a course so when I was offered the course at $497.00 I didnt hesitate.

He uses a style called mind bending langauge to induce trance rapidly so when we split up into pairs my partner has a problem with procrastination. I then asked her 'if procrastination had a problem with you what would it say ? Now syntactically it doesnt make sense but you could see the beginning of trance I then paced her reality by asking her how that feels right now ? She said that she didnt know I replied " thats right you really dont know do you you have no idea of that feeling right now do you ? He also uses a method called the Non Awareness Set .This causes trance through misdirection. So as I continued working on my partner and notice her finger twitching I pointed to her finger and asked what's going on with her finger again she replied that she didnt know then I just continued to pace her by confirming that she didnt know consciously but there was a part of her that knew and just kept feeding back the trance analogues back until a deep trance was achieved.

I can only sum up by saying thae course was definatley worth every penny and included regression , abreactions setting up apractice and everything you would expect from a good hypnotherapy course. Check out Learn Hypnosis - Hypnosis Training Foundations - Hypnosis Book + Cds/Dvds + Tapes + MP3s and see for yourself.


Regards

Robin

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When and where was this course held ? I seem to never observe Ledochowski being sponsored for live events. OTOH, there is a phenomenal amount of web shilling for his conversational hypnosis course. I bought one of these a few years ago. The audio quality was so apallingly bad, sounded like he had the microphone stuffed in his pocket. I surely hope he has remade this product to acceptable standards.

Question: if Igor IS the consummate master some appear to believe that he is, why don't we see him teaching at advertised seminars ?

This hypnotically mind numbing advertorial page you are pointing to is some of the worst codswollop I've ever seen promoting an "information product".... borders on the moronic.

I call B.S.

I think your reply could benefit from being a bit more specific, Tony. It's missing most of its structure, and here on an NLP forum you're quite likely to get replies like this one saying "Wha...?" Or even explicity asking "You call what or whom B.S.?" Oh, and trust me, that's only the beginning of how some people might begin to uncover the structure of your original thought and make it more explicit to the people reading your post. Not me, you understand, but some people might ask you to decide some whos, whats, hows, and such-like and make them a part of your statement so when we reply we know what we're replying to.

You should thank your lucky stars I'd never ask you to do that starting now.

Bridget,
Allow me to clarify. I believe that the original poster is just trying to market the conversational hypnosis product as is done on a variety of sites.

Good Lord, could you be more mind numbing in overstating the unnecessary ?

Sure, Dwight, just try me!

maybe I can find some old Quaaludes in the back of my desk drawer...

That makes it quite clear. Thanks. I took it to be a review of a course Robin felt she benefitted from, especially as she (he?) had posted on other threads. Who knows what's true? Not me. But when I suspect someone is spamming the forum, I've been known to ask them to stop it.

Knock yerself out.

yup.. it's a blatant shill...

Actually, I've heard a lot of really positive things about Igor's product. I look forward to finding out for myself. I was just in agreement with the first person to respond as I have seen similar posts for that product on other forums. So far, on this site, when people have really, strongly recommended to me specific products, they have sent me a private message. Then again, maybe the guy really got a lot out of that training and is merely informing us, in which case, I may want to go to the next one.

I will point out that this post is in the section of the forum specifically for reviews

Jenny,
Spammers have been known to do this for this particular product. I am out of line, however, as I do not have enough knowledge to judge, so I'll stop now.

Well, I'll add my two cents worth. I, too, was at the seminar with Igor, and in my opinion it would have been a bargain at several times the cost. I should state at the outset that I don't work for Igor, I have no financial connection with him, and I'm not posting this at his or anyone else's urging. I'm simply a satisfied customer who would unreservedly recommend Igor's course to anyone interested in hypnosis.

I also have his Conversational Hypnosis course, and I also consider it to be extremely good. I've heard other people comment about the poor sound quality and the cheesy marketing of the product. I would certainly agree that the marketing of the course leaves a bit to be desired, but that in no way detracts from the quality of the content of the course. Also, I myself have had no problem at all with the sound quality. Perhaps that's because I purchased it as downloads, or maybe Igor remastered the audio files. I dunno. All I can say is that I'm extremely happy with the course.

I also want to note that there are many excellent hypnosis teachers out there besides Igor. Doug O'Brien comes immediately to my mind as one of the very best. Doug and Igor have very different presentation styles, but they're both outstanding teachers and practitioners of hypnosis. You can't go wrong with either of those two gents.

Cheers,
Aaron Spurling

Question: if Igor IS the consummate master some appear to believe that he is, why don't we see him teaching at advertised seminars ?

This hypnotically mind numbing advertorial page you are pointing to is some of the worst codswollop I've ever seen promoting an "information product".... borders on the moronic.[/quote]

In reply all I can say is having read and learnt from his material it's not to everyones taste. I understand that he has trained/mentored by John Overdurf so his credentials are definatley in order.

As for his advertising the fact that he doesn't need to advertise as hard as some of the others including speaks volumes to me. Maybe you should look at the glass being half full for a change.

As for his sales letters I believe they were put together by Joe Vitale and if you know anything about Sales and Marketing then you'd know that people pay $1000s for his sales letters. Moronic maybe to some but if they get bums on seats then they're worth it.

wtf!!!

Hi Aron,

How did book the seminar? What was the cost?

Please send me a P.M and I'll send you the details. Course retails at around $495.00 (Yes that's right dollars not pounds sterling) however that I believe is an early bird price.

Regards

Robin

P.s Not sure what that earlier message was about ?

Greetings:

This is in reply to two of the previous posts on this thread. First, regarding the nature of Igor's advertising material, I'd be the first to agree that it's -- well -- a bit over the top. On the other hand, it's my understanding that Igor doesn't do the marketing himself. Rather, he has a partner who's in charge of that aspect of the business.

The deal between them, apparently, is that Igor has complete control over the content, and the partner has complete control over the marketing. I should also add that one of the participants at the seminar raised the issue of the marketing, and Igor seemed to be aware that some folks find the flavor of the advertisements a bit unsavory. In fact, I would even say Igor seemed almost embarassed by the whole thing. I wouldn't be at all surprised, then, if his marketing begins to take on a different tone now that he's starting to become better known.

Second, someone asked how I booked the seminar and what was the cost. I became aware of the seminar via something called the "Private Hypnosis Club" that Igor also runs. There's a monthly fee for membership, and in exchange you get to download a new hypnosis "Masterclass" each month.

Each Masterclass is comprised of several hours of recorded material, a bonus induction, and a manual in pdf form. The club also has a forum where members can communicate with one another on all matters hypnotic and where Igor makes himself available to answer questions. I believe Igor first announced the seminar to his membership list through the club, and that's how I signed up.

I think the cost was something like $400. However, I believe his next seminar (to be held in Seattle, Washington in January of 2009) will cost a good deal more. I think the price is somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,200, but I'm going from memory here, so don't take these numbers as gospel. Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Aaron