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Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. -
Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. The first thing that struck me about these DVDs is the quality of the production. Really good sound and video, professional editing and all notes overlaid on the screen, no panning across to a dog-eared flip chart. Many comments from participants are subtitled when their voices are not clear. Marc’s style keeps you buzzing all the time. A cross between Graham Norton on “E” and an excited Italian giving you road directions with his hands.
The program is based on a 2 day course which fits well into 8 one hour DVDs. The main focus is using influence techniques covertly. Some of it will be familiar if you have done a Prac course, heard Jamie Smart’s “Ethical Infuence” CD set, read Cialdini and persuasion engineering but the BIG difference is the way that Marc uses the stuff.
The thing that really amazed me about this program is the way Marc uses NLP and other techniques in a conversational way. Using Marc’s approach your could use many NLP techniques during a chat with a mate in the pub. All the artificial stuff about “think of a time when ….., make it brighter and bigger” disappears and Marc shows you how to weave it onto a conversation in a flowing natural way. Timelines are covered by body position and movement of the hands, none of the Johnny Cash “I walk the line” stuff, he makes it look so easy. Anchoring by adjusting your tie and shaking packets of sugar.
There are lots of techniques that will be useful in sales (which is why I bought the set in the first place) or for attracting the man/woman of your dreams but the I think it is the natural way that he uses them that marks Marc out as something special. I bet his Prac course will be interesting.
It is possible that he used Stealth techniques in the program to get me to write this review, but if he did, I wasn’t aware of it. -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Thanks for this Nick, ejoyed reading it
I'd love to get a look at those DVD'd but I'm too stingy to cough up the cash at the mo -
 lennydw67 wrote:
Thanks for this Nick, ejoyed reading it
I'd love to get a look at those DVD'd but I'm too stingy to cough up the cash at the mo
Wow, I could have just written that, the tight wad that I am 
Glad to read that you enjoyed the DVD Nick, and thanks for letting this tight arse at least know what he's missing -
I bought mine in classifieds, sadly without a manual but at full price I think it is still a good buy as you get some extra DVDs on using these skills in interviews. Compared with the cost of a course it is excellent value particularly when you realise that you can use your NLP skills in a whole new way. -
Dear Nick I haven’t been on NLP connections for a while, but just wanted to say thank you for your kind words. I invested a lot of time, and many thousands of pounds (not to mention soul)into developing the DVDs, so I'm really pleased that you enjoyed them! The response has been phenomenal so it's been well worth the effort! I've just launched 2 new websites to market the DVDs that you can visit here: www.stealthpersuasion.com www.get-the-job.co.uk I've also put a free persuasion pack together made up of PDF's. MP3's and Videos which you'll receive when you enter your details into stealthpersuasion.com. Anyway thanks again for your support, I really appreciate it! http://www.marchoganlive.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Hi Mark,
I notice that you are listing SMEACs as part of the course - is this the same as Eric Robbie's SMEACs?
Cheers,
Stephen http://www.fearelimination.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Hi Stephen
I did a course a number of years ago with Eric and Susan Belini, mine is more a questioning technique to uncover patterns of behaviour.
Marc www.stealthpersuasion.com http://www.marchoganlive.com -
 persuasion_skills wrote:
...mine is more a questioning technique to uncover patterns of behaviour. Oh. I thought that was the Meta Model and strategy elicitation, not SMEACs.
Stephen http://www.fearelimination.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Sorry Stephen
I'll be more specific.
The questions / statements / conversations uncover unconscious patterns of behaviour (micro signals) including eye movements , gestures etc which I then use to influence them.
Marc http://www.marchoganlive.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Sub-modality Eye-Accessing Cues (SMEACs) are a specific way that Eric Robbie created to notice from the outside what kind of pictures people are creating on the inside.
You can tell things like how big the picture is, is it in colour or black and white, in focus or fuzzy, does it have a border, and what colour is that border?
Being able to use SMEACs and being able to teach them are two very different things - deliberately so, because of how Eric Robbie has designed his teaching processes.
Even Eric doesn't claim he can teach this advanced material via a DVD. In fact, he doesn't believe that's possible.
I'm always very wary of half-learning advanced material from someone second or third hand. In my experience, it can make it much harder to learn the material fully later, because you have to first unlearn what you thought was the easy way - and you could build for yourself a new set of limitations. Eric is teaching SMEACs in April. -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. I think that SMEACs mean something to certain people, especially those who have been around NLP for a while, and even more especially those who hang around here - i.e. Eric Robbie's SMEACs
To advertise "SMEACs" and then say, well, its not exactly what you thought, its actually a questioning method to uncover unconcious patterns of behaviour, is not, in my opinion really very ethical.
That is, of course, just my map and I welcome a reasoned debate on it.
Stephen http://www.fearelimination.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Dear Stephen The last thing I'm going to do here is get into a conversation about my ethics. I'm also not going to go into Eric's beliefs. I've been on many courses, read many books, & experimented for many years in the real world to create my influence system, which has elements of many subjects and techniques. With regards to SMEACS I teach a system of tracking eye accessing (and other) cues that can be used in sales and persuasion setting. I've provided you with a very brief outline of 1 small part of my system. I get good feedback, and my DVDs sell around the world. Many people come on my courses which I hold in the UK, whilst others from the USA Hong Kong Scandinavia, Ireland, etc whilst others prefer to learn via DVD. Nick wrote a review, (as other people have on this site) I replied, and I mentioned my new sites. If you don’t like my style or my copy feel free not to buy my products or go on my courses. Marc http://www.marchoganlive.com -
 persuasion_skills wrote:
... feel free not to buy my products or go on my courses. Sure. No problem. http://www.fearelimination.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. I thought I should follow up my review by mentioning that the DVDs are no longer available.
Marc is now working with a new company and they find the material on the DVDs a little controversial for their corporate clients. -
I'm selling my copy if anyone's interested... STEALTH DVDs + Job interview skills DVD set
Matt -
Hi Guys As Nick has just said I've launched a very exciting and revolutionary training company called "ZooBites" with renowned corporate speaker Jim Lawless (if you haven't heard of him - Google him). We are currently taking applications for Partners, so: If you are looking to become a trainer. Or You are an existing trainer, and want to add a new offering to your clients. Or You’re a trainer working in a company and want to offer a new range of courses to your colleagues. Please check out ZooBites - Join The Revolution and to find out more about ZooBites visit www.zoobites.com We're having an Open Evening this week for prospective partners in London this week on Thursday May 1st to book your place please call 020 7692 7005 Speak soon! Marc Hogan Creative Director ZooBites www.ZooBites.com http://www.marchoganlive.com -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Hi Marc,
Had my mail, watched the video and browsed the site.
Am i missing something ?
Any chance of a bit more info for those of us that cant make May 1st ?
Cheers,
Mark -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. Thanks for taking the time to give a review Nick.
Anthony -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. I'm really bummed to hear that Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD Set is no longer available. It was infact that very "google search" that lead me here. If anyone knows where i can ge my hands on a copy... I'd be forever in your debt. -
Re: Marc Hogan's S.T.E.A.L.T.H DVD set. After reading this I want the S.TE.A.L.TH. DVD Set as well! :-)
Any tips on where I should start looking?
I've made an ebay search with no results. And now I've run out of ideas.. :-)
Best wishes,
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