Quote "And they still haven't made any other posts on this forum....hmmmm...."

Anyone want to buy a car?

Suggestable wrote:

Quote "And they still haven't made any other posts on this forum....hmmmm...."

Anyone want to buy a car?

Sir, I am the official car salesman of NLPCONNECTIONS. Well, at least in the United States.

Agreed Nick, but actually it never occurred to me that there would be an issue so I didn’t think to get them to mention it. If I ever suggest to anyone to join this forum again I will remember to make sure that they mention that I asked them to comment.

Tony, I wouldn’t want to be accused of casting favours, buy your own copy of the book and review it if you choose.

Sorry for the sarcastic comment I made earlier. As usual, I’ve let certain members of this forum set my teeth on edge and perhaps I should learn more about how to manage my state when I read their comments. One day I will learn.

You have a clear statement from me about my association with the people commenting and contrary to popular belief one of them is quite happily posting his comments in other sections. Further reviews and comments from people that have genuinely read the book are welcome.

Rintu

theNLPcompany wrote:

Agreed Nick, but actually it never occurred to me that there would be an issue so I didn’t think to get them to mention it. If I ever suggest to anyone to join this forum again I will remember to make sure that they mention that I asked them to comment.

Tony, I wouldn’t want to be accused of casting favours, buy your own copy of the book and review it if you choose.

Sorry for the sarcastic comment I made earlier. As usual, I’ve let certain members of this forum set my teeth on edge and perhaps I should learn more about how to manage my state when I read their comments. One day I will learn.

You have a clear statement from me about my association with the people commenting and contrary to popular belief one of them is quite happily posting his comments in other sections. Further reviews and comments from people that have genuinely read the book are welcome.

Rintu

I'm actually more convinced now that some of those posts were sock puppets. They haven't even posted to defend the honor of the author.

Hi Rintu

You seem geuine to me...I don't know why people have been suspicious but for my part if I had written a book that I was proud of I would follow a similar process to yourself...ask people (and if necessary strongly encourage the readers) to post reviews on a forum such as NLP Connections. To me this seems like sensible and proactive marketing...

Based on your readers comments I will definately buy your book and review it for myself. In the meantime I wish you every success in promoting your work!

Regards

Humaira

I left a review of Rintu's book and also let everyone know that was reading the review, that some of my positive experiences with this information were used as examples. I was made aware of this website by Rintu. Otherwise I probably would never had known it existed. I am a member of several hypnosis and NLP blog/websites. I took the time to answer a sincere reply to the thread. I made positive responses and suggested other information that this person might be able to use to help out his situation.
The surprising thing to me is that with few exceptions, none of the other members/posters to this thread addressed anything helpful for that persons situation. Maybe one of you could have suggested other resources of NLP books, or information. That might be more helpful, wouldn't it? Instead it's mostly one negative comment after another, about the book review, sock puppets, nobody posting another response after posting a review. Why should anyone? This was my first experience with this group/blog and I think it's not a friendly or helpful place. I don't get anything for the review. I do know there is a lot of crap out there, and no shortage of "experts" that will be glad to seperate you from your money. So a review of a good product was my way of introducing myself to the group. Why all the negativity? Are you aware of better products? Threads that would have been more helpful?
Tom

So "Tom", being that a forum such as this is constantly under threat of sock puppets, you wouldn't be the slightest bit skeptical if all of a sudden a "first post" is made praising a book only to be followed up by other "first posts" echoing the same?

Tom, this is not a blog but an open forum. There are more than a thousand people here, and we're largely a friendly and helpful group. I consider myself to be generally helpful and friendly, but notwithstanding, those first few posts struck me as feeling more than a bit scripted. I didn't suspect sockpuppetry, but figured you and the others were friends of Rintu's and wanted to keep the review high on the page. None of you introduced yourself to the forum or commented on any other threads, so perhaps we may be forgiven for some of the suspicion we experienced, especially given the high number of spurious posters we've dealt with recently.

If you have an interest in NLP, stick around. I've been to quite a few of the other NLP forums out there, and this one stands high in my comparison for quality of posts, and yes, people behaving in a helpful and friendly way.

Just my 2p, or 2.85c.

Tom,

I think context and frame is all.

We have had lots of sock puppets here recently. Sorry if you had a bad experience.

One of the keys of persuasion is that a recommendation from a trusted person is worth 10 times one from the author or an unknown. Establishing yourself first will have much more effect.

Search the archives, I have reviewed a few products in the years I have been here. My top picks are

"Persuasion Engineering" by John La Valle and Richard bandler.
"Influence" by Chaldini
"Stealth" by Marc Hogan

The last one is currently unavailable but a little bird tells me that it will be soon.

BMcKenna wrote:

Tom, this is not a blog but an open forum. There are more than a thousand people here, and we're largely a friendly and helpful group. I consider myself to be generally helpful and friendly, but notwithstanding, those first few posts struck me as feeling more than a bit scripted. I didn't suspect sockpuppetry, but figured you and the others were friends of Rintu's and wanted to keep the review high on the page. None of you introduced yourself to the forum or commented on any other threads, so perhaps we may be forgiven for some of the suspicion we experienced, especially given the high number of spurious posters we've dealt with recently.

If you have an interest in NLP, stick around. I've been to quite a few of the other NLP forums out there, and this one stands high in my comparison for quality of posts, and yes, people behaving in a helpful and friendly way.

Just my 2p, or 2.85c.

Bridget, you are too humble. You are more than just "generally helpful and friendly" you are very, very helpful and super friendly.

Myself, like the television, if I'm not interested, I watch something else, or I turn it off. I'm a first time poster, how would I know you've under a constant threat of sock puppets? How about just saying "Hello, welcome to the group", like most other sites. Come out and ask me if I have a vested interest in the book (I don't). I mean this in the nicest way possible...Where does anybody go around here to learn about NLP techniques and other useful information?
Tom
Tom

Hello Tom, Welcome to the group

Tom, speaking only for myself here, I don't expect you to have known anything at all, but I wanted to give you a possible context for some of the replies you read.

If there's something specific you'd like to read about here, click the "Search the archives" link on the left side of the page. Otherwise you can navigate through the tree at the top of the page and see if anything interests you. If you have a specific question you think I can help you with about any of that, I'll do my best.

There's a forum area for introducing yourself, so post there if you want and let us get acquainted with you.

theNLPcompany wrote:

Sorry for the sarcastic comment I made earlier. As usual, I’ve let certain members of this forum set my teeth on edge and perhaps I should learn more about how to manage my state when I read their comments. One day I will learn.

You might also want to think about how poorly you, let alone your "students", have performed as persuaders. That is, as exemplars of the skills you allegedly teach in your book.

Personally, whilst I found the initial posts totally unconvincing, I don't care a jot whether Tom, James and co. are sockpuppets or not. The only question I have in mind is:

Why on earth would anyone want to buy this book after witnessing the performances of you and your "students"?



Col. (ret'd) "Thoroughly unconvinced" Trumpington-Smyth
Tunbridge Wells.

Andy,

Andy,
I am sorry I asked some of my customers to join the site and add their comments to the review. I am sorry that I can’t control their comments to be more “believable”. It didn’t occur to me to ask them to “persuade” others to buy the book, I only asked them to make a comment.

I am also sorry that I took the bait and rose to what I consider rude, insulting and childish comments. Particularly after Chris took an approach to encourage them to make posts on other threads which was more welcoming and would have sorted the issue easily.

In my defence I asked a couple of people to join because I thought they would benefit from the forum and I would benefit from their comments on my book. I was more than a little angry at their initial treatment at the hands of this forum and embarrassed about the fact that I recommended this forum in the first place.

Rintu

Humaira_Ashraf wrote:

Hi Rintu

You seem geuine to me...I don't know why people have been suspicious but for my part if I had written a book that I was proud of I would follow a similar process to yourself...ask people (and if necessary strongly encourage the readers) to post reviews on a forum such as NLP Connections. To me this seems like sensible and proactive marketing...

Based on your readers comments I will definately buy your book and review it for myself. In the meantime I wish you every success in promoting your work!

Regards

Humaira

Hi Humaira,

Thanks for the comment I am still feeling quite sore about this whole thing so it is nice to have a positive comment.

I am going to ask my customers to come and pass comments here as a favour to me, but I can’t really recommend this forum based on the behaviour I regularly see here. So I would be really grateful if you would read and then say something about the book on this forum.

Rintu

Hi Rintu

I will be happy to read your book and post a review although in view of my current work load it won't be for a few weeks. However, whatever my experience of your book (good, bad or indifferent), I am sure that your intentions behined promoting your work are nothing other than positive. Well atleast I am led to believe that 'every behaviour has a positive intention'....now where did I read/hear that????

Personally I don't think you have anything to apologies for.... once again, I wish you success in achieving your marketing goals!

Regards

Humaira

I am a new member and bought the book recently after someone recommended NLP to me (i work in sales) and I googled it for more info. I randomly selected the NLPcompany and was extremely impressed with the complimentary NLP ideas and suggestions that Rintu had emailed to me. I have not finished the book yet by any means but am genuinely very impressed with what I have read so far and only today has Rintu asked for my support on this forum. You have my support too Rintu :-). Using the little NLP I have learnt, I agree with some of the comments and may I add that the issue isnt the negative comments on the book, but about the success that your readers will achieve when they are able to put the suggestions into practice and the gratitude they will feel towards you!

The books great.

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For those who haved posted sarcastic comments (and you know who you are) you may want to keep in mind that NLP is about having attitude not an attitude.