Hi Carlos,

Joss help me, I scrolled down through that whole section of text you quoted to see what your response was - and then burst out laughing as soon as I saw it.

As a disclaimer: I really don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone. That was just some funny shit. An excellent example of elegance in communicating your message.

Cheers,

James

Yes, that was a real tea-through-the-nose moment, all right.

I'm going to copy and paste that little doozy, especially as I didn't see © next to it so if you see it again on this forum, well thems the breaks

ha, ha

If I hear GOD said again i shall move someone closer to him!!
But seriously, you think what we do ( hypnotists etc) is crap, all very well, but give reasoned arguments please, rather than some big dude up in the skys going to smite you because i know best and you can all rot in my invented hell!

Hate to insult your beliefs but you opened the door.
And anyway if you finfd comfort in good, fine, but do you think that the church is n't manipulative? I mean seriously " do what we say or rot in fire an brimstone" and " do what we tell you have everything you want , After you die, ( and are unable to sue mwahahaha!! oh crap, the mikes still on!)"

As you read this you may find withen yourself a realisation and Become Aware of the fact that whatever one does in some way manipulates others, and Naturally See the obvious Truth that those who apply the stigma to manipulation do not Fully Understand the positive implications. And as you Feel the Truth Dawning, Feel Great in the knowledge that you can Be Positive about these things, and Help Others, and feel yourself truly Aware of the good withem manipulation.

Maybe God used NLP to become so great.



Seriously, why does Rinon post all this God stuff on the forum? That's not what this forum is about.

I thought he thinks he is him, but when I say I'm god after god is to have said he's everywhere then he totally dismisses it. Internet-troll is the description for these types on other forums and they always get banned.

Perhaps he has a different map of reality?

Isn't that 'map of divinity' ? ;-)

Maybe there is NO reality "which is why everyone as His/her own map" and as maps are dependent upon a reality base- then there are no maps- as reality does not exist- so the thing you are left with is energy and a part of that is consciousness- which is the part which creates all this stuff- we call beingness-


Rinon has as must right to express him self- as you and me- we might not agree- yet that's our maps being stretched- so it become a learning about being more flexible- which will always win out-

LJ

Rinon wants to map where he is and preach to someone who gives a toss!

Here is 20p go and phone someone who gives a fuck!

Thnx for all your comments. One thing that you have to know is that in the Internet exist people that are Trolls and their objective is to brake groups or communities saying stupid things. That is why you don't have to take ustahi, so seriously, he never believe in the shit he wrote. I imagine Ustahi laughing back his monitor for all the serious reactions in this forum

In conlusion Ustahi is a troll, this theme it's a good joke and Zgjidhja (You can pronounce the fucking word?) is a trademark.

Be happy and laugh .

As you quite rightly say the objective of a troll is to break a group or forum and they often work in pairs sometimes calling others in to help.

Whilst some of us may disagree in all sorts of ways about what Rinoni is posting I cannot see any evidence from his posts that his objective is to break the group.

I would be interested to know (Meta model alert !!!! – MM question coming up) specifically what you saw in his posts that led you to that particular conclusion.

BTW you will need more than simply suggesting that he is talking crap.

If that were the criteria I would have been chucked out months ago.

Many now seem to use word Troll as a term of abuse for someone simply posting something they don’t like.

John

The difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad

Pete, are you so sure that this is what Rinon wants - or is this a teensie weensie mind read you're doing?

;-)
And I would like to ask that we don't turn this into a witchhunt please.
But I don't need to.

I don't personally have any interest in a god stealth cloaked course and I thinki'd enjoy a visit to rinon's country - maybe the two are interchangeable.

Well, what I think is happening is that Rinon has something that he wants to share.

I think he talks a lot of crap, why? Well he talks about a god gives him this and god gives him that, without which he would have no possibility to function, or at least by his wording that's what's implied.

This is an open forum and he suggests what he thinks as do I!

If for example, I was to stress the importance of following catholicism would he respect my views? Probably yes, but he's not me and I find the whole idea of a god quite offensive, can he respect that?

Further to that he insists god is real I challenged him on that to present a pic or video of this god, none came. God and gods do nothing more than to seperate races ie jews, muslims, buddhists, seihks and a whole load of others I ain't even heard of.

Why should I believe in the god that he proposes when I watched and was brought up by a grandmother who put everything down to god's will. She believed that Jesus would return after 2000 years, the so-called second coming of Christ. When she died on Christmas Day 2001 she didn't mention god nor Jesus then and I think she was wholly disappointed after believing in him all her life.

Since that time I have travelled to the People's Republic of China on numerous occasions and learnt much of their culture and seen that nation develop beyond belief. England is supposed to be a developed country and yet has many out dated beliefs that there seems to be no replacement for like, drinking alchohol, keeping recreational drugs illegal and invading/intimidaing other countries.

The T.V. BBC and press are constantly giving a one sided story and apparently if I give in to god's will I will see all sorts change for the better. The only change for the better I can make is for myself, I have found. Well, I consider this god stuff all to be in the imagination and the seed of some very strong beliefs. I commened Rinon on his continued display of love for everyone it would be great if more people lived by such a great ethic. So, am I just teasing him or giving an opinion that he will never agre with? Right or wrong that's what it is and until he comes up with more than just mindless drivel then I will continue to challenge him and offer him my advice as he so freely offers his.

If god exists why hasn't he got an email address?

He does. Email God directly

Then, I'm converted, hallejluha, Lord done got himself an email. hahaha

Offensive? how specifcally

What thats word again, T O L E R E N C E was it?
Anyway god is too me aswell a negative concept, it is used as an excuse to justify atrocities and prevent that other most over used word, PROGRSS.
I could write a book against the idea of god, but remebering that T word I will say only this:
without god, who would we blame for our faults, i mean without him we may infact do something constructive, instead of talking to church ceilings!
But the T word looms so i shall be quiet
For now...
for now...

in that I get offended, why do people have to bo bow down to what essentially is a metaphor?