Hello!
I´ve resently moved to spain and are right now in huge need to learn Spannish. So i was thinkig if its possible so speed things up with nlp and hypnosis. The dream ofcourse would be to learn it all throgth hypnosis, in trance. Juste emerge and know the basics för spannis, or do it throgth several selfhypnosis sessions..

So what do u guys think, whats the best most efective and fastest way to learn spanish with nlp and hypnosis as help?

Regards..
Peter

Enzym wrote:

Hello!
I´ve resently moved to spain and are right now in huge need to learn Spannish. So i was thinkig if its possible so speed things up with nlp and hypnosis. The dream ofcourse would be to learn it all throgth hypnosis, in trance. Juste emerge and know the basics för spannis, or do it throgth several selfhypnosis sessions..

So what do u guys think, whats the best most efective and fastest way to learn spanish with nlp and hypnosis as help?

Regards..
Peter

you won't like what I going to say.....you don't just "put yourself in trance" and learn a language. it doesn't work that way. what I can recommend is that you go to Rosetta Stone and either buy an online subscription for Spanish OR just buy their software designed to teach spanish and install it on your computer.

that will "accelerate" your learning of Spanish while in country

I had a certain level of fluency in Spanish myself and wishing to take my fluency up several levels, took a chance with Rosetta Stone. (I've experimented with others but was disatisfied). Rosetta Stone has proved be extremely valuable. but you do have to put in the hours.

Enzym wrote:

I´ve resently moved to spain and are right now in huge need to learn Spannish. So i was thinkig if its possible so speed things up with nlp and hypnosis.

My thought is to go to the experts: babies. What do they do?

The first thing I think of is the fact that it really matters to them as far as their relationships go. Simple exposure to the language isn't enough; the language has to be spoken by someone important to the baby. So I'd say that before you do anything else, you find that state inside yourself.

Second thing is that they babble. Now, don't babble, but feel free to play and have fun. Remember that most of the meaning is carried paraverbally and nonverbally. Try everything, and learn from the feedback.

Third thing is they don't open a dictionary and start learning words beginning with "A", then move on to the "B" words, and so on. They start with the words that will get them the results they want. The words for mama and dada and bottle and titty and puppy and kitty and rattle and ball and so on. You'll have to decide what those words and phrases are for your particular situation, but the "politeness words" like greetings, "please," "thank you," "yes," "no," and "maybe" are great places to begin, as are the "question" words, words for "want" and "need" and "purchase," and words for hospital, police, ambulance, telephone, translator, etc.

There are two problems with using babies as our models.

First, they're wired for language acquisition. That wiring goes away after about age six or so. We're stuck with memorization. [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Loraynes-Page-Minute-Memory/dp/0030029945/"]Harry Lorayne's Page-A-Minute Memory Book[/ame], or any one of his others, can help make up for that.

Second, they aren't as quick about it as we want to be. It really does take babies several years to gain mastery. We can overcome that with structure. You've already been referred to Rosetta Stone; I enjoyed my Pimsleur CDs, myself. You might also investigate the book, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/How-Learn-Any-Language-Inexpensively/dp/0806512717/"]How To Learn Any Language: Quickly, Easily, Inexpensively, Enjoyably and on Your Own [/ame], and/or the DVD, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Any-Language-Barry-Farber/dp/B000RA2R0E/"]Learn Any Language[/ame], both by Barry Farber, who claims he can converse in dozens of languages.

I hope you keep us posted.

My favourite learning method is Pimsleur CDs,free from your local library in UK, not sure about spain.

They make it pretty easy, no books, just listen and repeat. I used them last year before my holiday to France. One session a day for 60 days. It was surprising how much I learned.

You will still have to deal with the written stuff later, but getting the verbal stuff sorted makes that much easier.

There are 3 levels each level is 30 lessons.

I've heard lots of good things about Rosetta Stone from people who've used it, and here's another couple of recommentdations:

On my prac training, someone asked Richard Bandler about how to use NLP in learning a language. Next day someone else asked Paul McKenna the same thing. Both had the same basic answer: "Just get Michel Thomas's system." I've also heard people rave about that one. Never used either, but I am going to spend a month in Mexico this winter, so I'd better get on it.

Hola, como estas? Mi madre es Espanola, es un idioma muy bonito, a beautiful language, (creo,) I think you should do one of these courses but just have fun! Divertimiento es muy bonito, ha ha, just go with the flow and you will find spanish coming out of your brain and mouth in no time at all, it's all about making mistakes and having the light heartedness to not give a monkey, (mono) about them!! I teach English conversation here in Italy and my clients have such a laugh that they are soon chatting away!!! These are people, who originally said they were useless at English, a lot of it boils down to how they learnt languages at school! It's totally different when you're grown up, you're in the driving seat and you're not going to miss the finish line!

Suerte como los TOREROS (bull fighters)!!! Good Luck

Violeta

Ha

Hypnosis language learning may not be the way to go lol Yo perdió mis pescados del chocolate en el jardín de la seis gente tocada con la punta del pie del tejón, puede usted ayudar?


You might want to check out one other system- that use accelerated learning as a base- yet with only give you the basic of the language- "easylearn" languages from Learning strategies

EasyLearn Language Programs for effective language learning

I would also like to add to the Michael Thomas recognition- as his method is very good- and worth the time to check out..

J

Enzym wrote:

Hello!
I´ve resently moved to spain and are right now in huge need to learn Spannish. So i was thinkig if its possible so speed things up with nlp and hypnosis. The dream ofcourse would be to learn it all throgth hypnosis, in trance. Juste emerge and know the basics för spannis, or do it throgth several selfhypnosis sessions..

So what do u guys think, whats the best most efective and fastest way to learn spanish with nlp and hypnosis as help?

Regards..
Peter

Peter,

if you decide to go the route of buying a language learning system like Rosetta Stone or Michel Thomas's "system", keeo in mind that some are visual, some are auditory(Michel Thomas's sytem) and some are both(Rosetta Stone). I have used both: Michel Thomas' and Rosetta Stone. I learned FASTER with Rosetta Stone.

Jim

livemocha.com is like rosetta stone, but online, completely free, and has like 8 or 10 different languages. In addition to basically being an exact replica of rosetta stone online but free, it's a community too, you can record your voice and people will gladly correct your pronunciation, accent and grammar. you can also post written work. check it out while it's free.

kingfreddys wrote:

livemocha.com is like rosetta stone, but online, completely free, and has like 8 or 10 different languages. In addition to basically being an exact replica of rosetta stone online but free, it's a community too, you can record your voice and people will gladly correct your pronunciation, accent and grammar. you can also post written work. check it out while it's free.

its interesting to know about livemocha, though both livemocha AND Rosetta Stone are available online. of course Rosetta Stone isn't free.

Jim

Thanks for the answers! Found one course whith the thomis guy. I´m going to try this out.. Hmm smart point there, I think i´m quite of a visual person and kinestedic so is the thomas one för visual persons or are rosetta stone better for a visual person?

Found one on swedish (my flouid language) but it bas pritty bad, just memorizing a lot of stuff..

So maybe some selfhypnosis soundfile to sun once a day just to keep things in the right place with suggestions like.. "You´ll want to learn and find that you learn and proceed really qouckly". =). Some recomendations of some soundfile like that ?! Or maybe it´s better to record an own file..

Enzym wrote:

Thanks for the answers! Found one course whith the thomis guy. I´m going to try this out.. Hmm smart point there, I think i´m quite of a visual person and kinestedic so is the thomas one för visual persons or are rosetta stone better for a visual person?

Found one on swedish (my flouid language) but it bas pritty bad, just memorizing a lot of stuff..

So maybe some selfhypnosis soundfile to sun once a day just to keep things in the right place with suggestions like.. "You´ll want to learn and find that you learn and proceed really qouckly". =). Some recomendations of some soundfile like that ?! Or maybe it´s better to record an own file..

Rosetta Stone is unquestionably designed for the Visual and Auditory student. Michel Thomas is only designed for auditory

Well, it's a good thing that there ain't no such thing as Auditory and Visual people then. Those labels express tendencies in the very short term, not ongoing conditions. Someone tried to label me as a visual learner yesterday when I drew a diagram in my notes of their training session: how could this be the case given that she was delivering it using the spoken word? Maybe, just maybe, these things are messier than labelling suggests.

adrian r wrote:

Well, it's a good thing that there ain't no such thing as Auditory and Visual people then. Those labels express tendencies in the very short term, not ongoing conditions. Someone tried to label me as a visual learner yesterday when I drew a diagram in my notes of their training session: how could this be the case given that she was delivering it using the spoken word? Maybe, just maybe, these things are messier than labelling suggests.

very short term? uh I don't think so. everyone can obviously learn to use all their representational systems yet they do use one primarily through time, and of the other 2, one is usually out of consciousness. and they are patterns, not just "labels".

Jim

There's a John Grinder quote to the effect that any diagnosis of V, A, or K should be treated as 'true' for only a few minutes: it becomes a label when you believe that it applies to the way someone 'is' long term.

Enzym wrote:

Thanks for the answers! Found one course whith the thomis guy. I´m going to try this out.. Hmm smart point there, I think i´m quite of a visual person and kinestedic so is the thomas one för visual persons or are rosetta stone better for a visual person?

As has been pointed out, everyone is a mixture of all rep systems in different contexts. A man I know told me yesterday he had problems seeing pictures. I pointed out a couple of things to him conversationally, and I think I can risk a mindread to say he was amazed at his own badass visual self; he'd just never been shown it before. We think in all systems, but may be more aware of some in some contexts, or so it seems to me.

I'd recommend immersing yourself in your new language on all burners. If you're going to listen to Michel Thomas, also go online and do some visual language stuff with livemocha and anything else you can find out there. And buy a CD of music and listen, and feel the beat, and get up and dance!

Arriba!

and once you have some of the basics, play!

i found learning some off the wall phrases helps too, as you learn the ways in which things are said, and can remember easier.

vincenzo wrote:

and once you have some of the basics, play!

What Vince said!

vincenzo wrote:

i found learning some off the wall phrases helps too...

Now we know how Vince learned English!!!

quanta costa questa borsa?

says it all for me.

Michael_DeBusk wrote:

There are two problems with using babies as our models.

First, they're wired for language acquisition. That wiring goes away after about age six or so. We're stuck with memorization.

Hi Michael,

Those (not very accurate) affirmations are being questioned by the whole theory of the plasticity of the brain, besides being the least helpful beliefs/almost excuses for someone learning a new language.

Plasticity of the brain is precisely one of the physical explanations of why and how NLP can effect changes.

I know its a long time since the post but anyhow

cheers!

Roberto