Hi all,

I've started this thread in response to one that had gone off track, in several interesting directions?

There are people who teach, train or develop martial arts systems/sports that use NLP, Hypnosis or Pschology to enhance performances.

I'd love people to share what sport/martial art they use it for and how they use it.

I personally use NLP & Hypnosis for Boxing and Rugby, particularly for things like returning after injury or facing fearful opponents.

Please feel free to share your own stories and hopefully we can generate some new ideas between us and learn lots.

Kind regards,

Nick

The areas that i use NLP/Hypnosis/Psychology in are:

Muay Thai
BJJ
Systema
Kali
Silat

Joint Mobility
KettleBells

Ill post more, have patients this evening, and off to Glasgow tomorrow for the NHR seminar in Edinburgh

Done some DTI with the All blacks doing the Haka - that helps for fears... more later..

Hmmm... I wonder if I do and does lucid dreaming count?

One thing that would probably be useful would be to enable the person that you're working with to do state management processes in the midst of what they are doing.
Personally I find this a necessity as I have minor breathing difficulties that become major ones whenever I'm wearing a gumshield.
One thing that has always interested me is the way that some classical martial arts lay out a template for behaviour that can be applied to other areas and levels of activity,such as the way that books such as "a book of five rings"is applied in a business context.

Hi all,

I'm really curious about how time distortion techniques work? They would be useful for both defensive moves and attacking strikes.

Has anyone any experience or information about this?

Kind regards,

Nick

Interesting point.How many people are consciously mindful of what they're doing at the time?

Anyone handy to Richmond, West London might be interested in the November meeting of the Richmond NLP group:

Tuesday 20th November - A Sporting Chance, with Jeremy Lazarus

NLP could be described as a collection of beliefs and approaches to help people improve their performance in one or more areas of their life. Sport is probably an area where one’s ‘performance’ is most easily and immediately measured, for example by:

¨ time,
¨ distance,
¨ speed,
¨ points,
¨ goals
¨ league position

This inter-active talk will provide you with specific skills that you can use for yourself and others in both sports and other areas of life. You will learn the following:
¨ some of the key points for the mindset for sporting success
¨ goal setting and goal achieving in sport
¨ being in THE right state (as opposed to ‘a right state’)

You will have the opportunity to practice the techniques during the evening, to embed what you learn.

About Jeremy


Jeremy Lazarus is a Master Trainer of NLP and a high performance executive and sports coach. Prior to becoming a coach, Jeremy spent over 15 years in business as an accountant, finance director, management consultant and corporate treasurer.

In addition to running NLP courses, Jeremy coaches and trains business people and athletes to perform more effectively. His business clients and students range from Blue Chip organisations through to successful entrepreneurs, and his sporting clients range from top amateur athletes to Premiership football clubs. He is a former semi-professional footballer and qualified football coach.

He regularly speaks at workshops, conferences and seminars, and has appeared on television and live radio several times.

Contact is Henrietta Laiit, Henrietta(at)richmondnlpgroup.org.uk

Jeremy is good guy! - he set me up with my unconcious yes/no signals!


Say hi to him from me - whoever goes!

judy wrote:

Anyone handy to Richmond, West London might be interested in the November meeting of the Richmond NLP group:

Tuesday 20th November - A Sporting Chance, with Jeremy Lazarus

Thanks Judy,

This sounds fab, I am emailing Henrietta now.

Al, I'll definately say hello if I end up attending.

Kind regards,

Nick

Pierre wrote:

Hi all,

I'm really curious about how time distortion techniques work? They would be useful for both defensive moves and attacking strikes.

Has anyone any experience or information about this?

Kind regards,

Nick

Ive used time distortion methods many times, in fact i like my guys to roll, or train initially very slowly both physically and mentally to allow their CNS to absorb all the data about movement, etc.

I then have them run it in a fast mode, and then absorb the difference between slow training and fast.

Training slow, and by that i mean SLOOOOOW, allows the chinks in physical and mental performance to be smoothed out etc.

More later, preparing for NHR tomorrow.

For kick boxing it's always great to have a sharp mind and that does entail lots of time distortion. Slowing your opponent down by simply observing the bigger picture will allow you to respond to his actions much quicker.

The response that you need is a sharp, crisp and powerful response. You connect with the floor and let the energy flow through you. obviously in sports mode or at least in san shou/ san da there are no direct punches to the face.

In a street fight or boxing you want that power, it takes practice. You may do it the first few times then it'll wane, then you need to master the technique and build on that!

Chinese kick boxing develops many of the qualities needed and Yi Chuan is probably the best system for time distortion.

chikimonki wrote:

For kick boxing it's always great to have a sharp mind and that does entail lots of time distortion. Slowing your opponent down by simply observing the bigger picture will allow you to respond to his actions much quicker.

The response that you need is a sharp, crisp and powerful response. You connect with the floor and let the energy flow through you.

In a street fight or boxing you want that power, it takes practice. You may do it the first few times then it'll wane, then you need to master the technique and build on that!

Chinese kick boxing develops many of the qualities needed and Yi Chuan is probably the best system for time distortion.

Peter, I understand how a sharp mind can allow you to see things quicker but this can also use more energy being in a state of hyper-vigilance or arousal. I remember watching something that Bandler or someone else did by imaging the Baseball the pitcher was throwing being 10 times the size so it was easier to hit, I wondered if anyone used anything like this for target areas?

Andrew, in boxing we are encouraged to practise slowly in front of the mirrors, this helped me a lot to notice dropping my right hand when throwing a left hook. I can appreciate the kineasthetic coding of movements "feeling right" too, forgive my ignorance what is CNS? No rush on the reply, enjoy your course first, let us know how it goes!

Kind regards,

Nick

CNS - Central Nervous System.
I have loads and loads of experience with time and coaching, in systema (Russian Martial Arts) there is a lot of time distortion work, especially within physical exercise etc.

Ill post more when i have time.

Pierre wrote:

this can also use more energy being in a state of hyper-vigilance or arousal

your words not mine, dude

chikimonki wrote:

Pierre wrote:

this can also use more energy being in a state of hyper-vigilance or arousal

your words not mine, dude

Sorry if I misunderstood Peter, I am keen to learn how you distort time by "the bigger picture". Is this anything to do with defocussing or "Hakalou?" or something I've heard it called?

Kind regards,

Nick

you have to develop ths skills and It's more of a soft focus and then wild or vicious intent. Changing states quickly, using natural movement ie like a baby.

Here's a clip and there are many more alongside, this is Master Yao and his brother. He is a very famous teacher within Yi chuan. It's a very interesting and extremely powerful style:

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enjoy!

He looks like a cross between Muhammed Ali and Marcel Marseau.

chikimonki wrote:

Pierre wrote:

this can also use more energy being in a state of hyper-vigilance or arousal

your words not mine, dude

Unless you were referring to my use of the word "arrousal" which I thought meant "heightened awareness" in Psychological terms? If not, someone please tell me so I can remember the times I've mis-used it and hide away.

Here's a clip and there are many more alongside, this is Master Yao and his brother. He is a very famous teacher within Yi chuan. It's a very interesting and extremely powerful style:

I'm no expert but I can see how he keeps his balance whilst moving but at the same time having a "feet planted" style to deliver power strikes. When he throws a left jab he uses a blocking movement with his right too, interesting stuff!

Kind regards,

Nick

Hypervigilance and arousal don't always go together.
Arousal ,to my mind, is more a matter of how much energy is in the system;and in stress states it can severely limit awareness.
A lot of fighters tend to be naturally hypervigilant,often as a result of negative early experiences.
I think that for practical use,it's better not to have the conscious mind quite so involved,often fighters will work more from the reptile brain and take advantage of the neurological fast tracks rather than do things consciously.