... who thumbs down a blank
post?

Honestly, I thought at least people who understood
NLP would at least be able to grasp context from Content and not get so involved in the content of something so trivial as a joke.

Like seriously you guys need to some re-evaluations of the worlds in which you live in. There really is no pedophile in the joke, there really is no girl in the joke, none of it ever happened.

Why should anything be taboo? Are people that afraid of a JOKE?
Hell I didn't even write it.

SilverIncubus wrote:

LOL that is a JImmy Carr joke. "My girlfriend said to me the other day, "You're a pedophile!' Pedophile? Pedophile? That's a pretty big word for a 10 year old" LOL classless yet still a good punchline

With this and the previous tagline, I can't help but feel that a new low has been found.

Maybe it is just me that fails to understand, but just how is any reference to pedophilia and child sexual abuse humourous?

23nlpeople wrote:

With this and the previous tagline, I can't help but feel that a new low has been found.

Maybe it is just me that fails to understand, but just how is any reference to pedophilia and child sexual abuse humourous?

The humor is in the punchline, not the subject. I don't limit myself to humor so you could say that I find odd things funny. IN actuality, that subject isn't funny. so remember its just a joke, and that is the frame it has to stay in.
I suppose you have never heard a dead baby joke either? Sometimes you say really offensive jokes to get that kind of a reaction.

I'm sure you already know this but the secret to jokes is that it builds an expectation from one story and then goes to another direction. For instance in the joke above, you think that the person is of age and is in a relationship with the man and they find out he is a pedophile. then you learn that it is actually the kid saying that...... right? its a curve ball.

I don't want you to get a negative impression about me, I have a very dark sense of humor.

23nlpeople wrote:

With this and the previous tagline, I can't help but feel that a new low has been found.

Maybe it is just me that fails to understand, but just how is any reference to pedophilia and child sexual abuse humourous?

The reason why a particular kind of joke is funny is because it mixes logic to the absurd. I read about this in New Scientist I believe within an article about a girl who had brain surgery to help relieve her epilepsy - during the operation she burst out laughing and had no recall of it. This is due to one part of the brain (logical analysis) very quickly communicating to another (presumably creative) and when this happens laughter occurs. Now if the joke was a story that went on for some time, the change in brain activity wouldn't have the same affect and the abuse side of the joke would render it quite unfunny. Though don't qoute me on the New Scientist article as I read that years ago.



Edit,

very quickly communicating to another - should say having a chemical inbalance


Edit part II
This post is merely a reference to the mechanics of a joke and does not in anyway justify the joke itself!!

Justin,

No harm done, but your explanation did remind me of a chap I used to work with. He would upset person after person with rude and stupid remarks and totally over look the hurt he caused people by claiming 'I have a dark sense of humor that nobody else gets'. Essentially he would upset them and then blame them for being upset. I challenged him once by offering him the reframe of maybe nobody finds you funny because you are not funny'?

That story was prompted by you but it not a mataphor'ed attempt to have a dig! I like the joke, thousands of people a year pay good money to watch Jimmy Carr and buy his DVDs, I am one of them. I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand.

Thanks,

Matt

One for the road?

When you eat a lot of spicy food, you can lose your taste. When I was in India last summer, I was listening to a lot of Michael Bolton.

And why did my post get two thumbs down? All these thumbs over the last 3 days and no lifts anywhere!!! All I have done is explain how a joke works to my understanding, I havn't supported or condoned in anyway the original poor taste joke and made it clear my view it was a poor joke by pointing out if it was a story and not a joke I would have expected others to be offended of it.

An irony people who are studying communication skills resort to cowardice and a complete lack of careful communication with thumbs down... This feature should be removed to improve the quality of discussion...


Mmm I think I shall be unsubscribing from this thread, though in having a curiosity for the mentally disabled, I wonder how many thumbs down this particular post will make?

Jon wrote:

And why did my post get two thumbs down? All these thumbs over the last 3 days and no lifts anywhere!!!

Hitchhiking would be thumbs up I believe, not down, so there’s another joke that’s fallen flat for you.

23nlpeople wrote:

With this and the previous tagline, I can't help but feel that a new low has been found.

Maybe it is just me that fails to understand, but just how is any reference to pedophilia and child sexual abuse humourous?

Humour for me it at its best and most powerful when it is hitting people's new lows.

John

Once again we come to the Holiday Season, a deeply religious time that each of us observes in their own way by going to the shopping mall of their choice

And no-where does it say "in my opinion".

Such, compassion.

The meaning of communication is response you get given the person you're talking to.
We would do well to remember my map is not your territory.

23nlpeople: makes some sense and the forum attacks, what the frick!

"its funny because" in your opinion, not everyone elses.

Enjoy

Andy

light wrote:

And no-where does it say "in my opinion".

Such, compassion.

z8000783 wrote:

Humour for me it at its best ....

I thought that would have covered it.

light wrote:

23nlpeople: makes some sense..

... in your opinion.

John

This thread has gone weird.

This thread has gone weird.

For me it was wierd from the moment someone started a thread called

"How to install a complusion to approach women?"

It was a miracle it lasted with reasonable sence for so long!

Thanks

Matt

Redsimo wrote:

For me it was wierd from the moment someone started a thread called

"How to install a complusion to approach women?"

But mightn't that not be a appropriate question from someone who was desperate?

If NLP has taught me one thing it is that things are not always as they seem.

John

I'm such a good lover because I practice a lot on my own in front of a mirror

z8000783 wrote:

But mightn't that not be a appropriate question from someone who was desperate?

If NLP has taught me one thing it is that things are not always as they seem.

John

I'm such a good lover because I practice a lot on my own in front of a mirror

Ye, I agree with this, if someone is at the point at which they can't approach women for whatever reason, then t hey will consider the compulsion to be the oopposite end of the spectrum and thus come out with that question. Pretty sad there are so many on this list who are either not in a position to help and worse nor be botheed to if they could.

My first ever post on this forum.
I feel compelled to write this after reading all the replies.

I am totally amazed by the amount of totally useless drivel on this thread, and the incredibly misguided and just plain incorrect advice given.

I can't work out if most of you have chosen deliberately to mis-read or mis-interpret the original poster's question, or whether you truly didn't get it in the first place.

The only valuable post I've found was by Nigel Adams - 'I'm amazed how much codswallop some of the men here are peddling out about what women like/want...'

The comment about 'go see a prostitute' was probably the lowest point in peoples attempts to help this guy, or give him assistance he needs.
If this thread is an example of the type of threads that propagate on this forum, then I won't be sticking around.

As for own POSITIVE addition to the thread, I suggest to the OP that they seek out 'Removing Approach Anxiety using EFT' - There are one or two very useful YouTube videos available on this subject.

Chris

CandymanMessiah wrote:

My first ever post on this forum.
I feel compelled to write this after reading all the replies.

I am totally amazed by the amount of totally useless drivel on this thread, and the incredibly misguided and just plain incorrect advice given.

I can't work out if most of you have chosen deliberately to mis-read or mis-interpret the original poster's question, or whether you truly didn't get it in the first place.

The only valuable post I've found was by Nigel Adams - 'I'm amazed how much codswallop some of the men here are peddling out about what women like/want...'

The comment about 'go see a prostitute' was probably the lowest point in peoples attempts to help this guy, or give him assistance he needs.

If this thread is an example of the type of threads that propagate on this forum, then I won't be sticking around.

As for own POSITIVE addition to the thread, I suggest to the OP that they seek out 'Removing Approach Anxiety using EFT' - There are one or two very useful YouTube videos available on this subject.

Chris

Chris,

Nice to see that you edited your post to add in some advice rather than just critiquing and commenting on others input it shows you are not a hypocrite well done!

So what do you expect from the form specifically regarding this post? I mean EFT is almost off topic as this is a forum on and generally for NLP, hence the forum subheading "NLP for seduction and relationships"

Chris you seem like an expert in the field of approach anxiety what else would you recommend to the original poster?

My two pennies worth starts with a lot of questions....

How do you know when to feel nervous about approaching beautiful women?

When you think about apporaching women how do you represent this in your mind?

Is there a picture you project internally?

Is there a voice associated with the picture?

Is there a feeling associated with the picture and or voice?

I have more questions before I offer some specific advice....

Alternatively, if you want some real advice on the whole PUA/Speed Seduction type stuff go to this forum www.puaforum.co.uk create a user account and ask questions there you will get more direct answers from people who know and practice game for real.

Cheers,

Jason

aikijason wrote:

Chris,

I mean EFT is almost off topic as this is a forum on and generally for NLP,

I'd beg to differ, on the premise that EFT incorporates, at the very least:

• rapport building
• collapsing anchors
• Swish elements
• V A K submodality shifts (especially if using SUDs)
• strategies
• logical levels (behaviour, capabilities, beliefs, values, identity, relationship)
  
• belief change
• future pacing
  
• reframing

and much more that can be described, interpreted, explained or comprehended in NLP terms, so it's good that it's only almost off topic!

Go well

mikmal wrote:

I'd beg to differ, on the premise that EFT incorporates, at the very least:

• rapport building
• collapsing anchors
• Swish elements
• V A K submodality shifts (especially if using SUDs)
• strategies
• logical levels (behaviour, capabilities, beliefs, values, identity, relationship)
  
• belief change
• future pacing
  
• reframing

and much more that can be described, interpreted, explained or comprehended in NLP terms, so it's good that it's only almost off topic!

Go well

Michael,

In as much as NLP is a meta-system you could argue that all communication has a basis in NLP and vice versa, and I take your point

Jason

Redsimo wrote:

"] Most girls would prefer a quirky bloke that is genuine and real.

And some blokes, so I'm told,(!) would consider a real quicky shag about as genuine as it needs to get!

Easy come, easy go?

Anyway, go well!