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    Changing Submodalitys

    I've been reading bandlers guide to submodalitys. The first exercise is to establish the difference between pleasant and unpleasant experiences. I've noticed in my pleasant experiences the size is fairly small. maybe 1"X3". Then my unpleasant is about double the size. Is this like a hardwired trait or is it possible to begin organizing my pleasant experiences much bigger so that it comes naturally. I know blowing my pictures up more has more of a positive response that is why i ask. Would I even want this kind of change?

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    I know this is a trap question so I'll reply because I know I'm safe, fun or harmless and even gamey because I don't know so much. I'm not even schooled, just attended a couple free seminars from NLPCA and so that makes me an expert even though I miss the last seminar.

    Do you ever even reallly know what a submodality is? It's those that's which is sub- or underneath the modality or modal/thinking. It's even also called Meta w/c is deep when you're up-side down. However, righting yourself up meta becomes above to modality and workable. Then flip or summersaul yourself around again and walla you're back to normal.

    Maybe a gooder meta explanation would be as if you were in 1st-grade doing arithmetic you pull-out your cheaters from your socks, bring it to the table, work your formula and you're done and happy good to go.

    Now it's been said, you are normal when your best pictures are fore-front and center-staged with you in it as opposed to your being back-grounded. Now why would you want to live a life that's dull by reversing the dream or submodality controls?

    Smoke it out what's hindering you from success, or maybe not treat the symptomes and is these not what you saying?

    You weren't ignored now tell me your lies I gave it a shot!


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    Re: Changing Submodalitys

    Yes it's possible, that's why a lot of people are here.

    http://www.westessexhypnotherapy.co.uk

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    Can you imagine a dog house?
    Can you imagine a giant castle?
    Now can you make the dog house the same size has the castle?
    Now think of the cup you use to drink out off, can you make that the same size as the dog house? then can you make that the same size as the castle?
    Now think of your cup, has being its normal size- now think of one pleasant experience and make it the same size as the cup, now make it the same size as the dog house and now make it the same size as the castle.

    Because the brain works by a process of patterning, if you create a set of steps, point A to point B then the transition is much more functional.

    What I suggest you do if you have not done so already, is read the book through once with out doing any of the exercise- then go through it again this time doing the exercise- this way you create a series of associations which will allow you to assimilate the ideas much faster than going page to page exercise to exercise.

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    Quote baldycfh wrote: View Post
    Would I even want this kind of change?
    Only if you'd like to live with more happiness on a daily basis. Changing submodalities makes a difference in how you feel about anything, anytime. It's what you've already done to make your pleasant pictures smaller than your unpleasant ones, but this is the first time you've been made aware of it, so you can also be aware now that you can switch that around, can you not?

    Give Jay's suggestions a go and see if it makes a difference now.


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    I understand how to change the SM. My question was more around is there way so that it comes naturally. So when i think of a pleasant experience it comes to me bigger and brighter than this small picture I normally represent without having to do the change

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    Quote baldycfh wrote: View Post
    I understand how to change the SM. My question was more around is there way so that it comes naturally. So when i think of a pleasant experience it comes to me bigger and brighter than this small picture I normally represent without having to do the change
    Like every skill, practice makes perfect. You know how to make a small picture automatically. You also know how to make it bigger, but this requires you to concentrate... so, clear your mind, think of that pleasant experience and make it bigger again. Repeat this ten times in a row, quickly. Now imagine a time in the future where you would like to be able to do this automatically - nice!

    The more you actively and repetitively change a sub-modality quickly, the more your mind will 'get it' and it will become automatic, like any skill you believe it's worthwhile learning and you're on your way.


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    Identify the SM's that you want your picture to automatically appear as, then picture your pleasant expereince. Imagine your picture flies off into the distance, then snaps back into the submodalities that you want it to stay as (this should happen in no longer time than it takes you to say "swish") break state, repeat.

    The more you repeat this the more likely it will stick

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    Quote baldycfh wrote: View Post
    I understand how to change the SM. My question was more around is there way so that it comes naturally. So when i think of a pleasant experience it comes to me bigger and brighter than this small picture I normally represent without having to do the change
    Yes there is firstly you need to do it more consciously like Jay suggested by doing this you are talking to your unconscious in its own language and with good syntax.

    I would suggest that you run through the exercise Jay suggested 5 times in the morning, 5 times in the afternoon and 5 times in the evening.

    Do this for a week and keep picking different positive experiences to use also add in some that you want to happen in the future if you stick to this for a week what will happen is that your unconscious will say "OK I get it" and it will start doing it for past positive experiences and also hopefully generalise into your future as well at this point it should be an automatic unconscious action...
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    regarding what jay said about making it into a series of steps. I haven't heard this before, does it matter what sort of steps or is it just adding in a few steps for the sake of it?

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    Quote steven415 wrote: View Post
    regarding what jay said about making it into a series of steps. I haven't heard this before, does it matter what sort of steps or is it just adding in a few steps for the sake of it?
    I would say that the steps are part of the learning it is teaching more control over the submodalities.

    When I use submodalities to change negative beliefs I do a step change from Belief to Uncertainty to Disbelief this is an insurance policy for me so that if there is a hiccup in the change there is a back stop between disbelief and belief.... for the same reason I would go from Cup size to Dog kennel Size to Castle Size and even of there is a slip back towards the old way you have a backstop.

    This is just something I personally like to add in as an insurance policy

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    makes sense. I once used the technique I described earlier with someone and they said it got stuck off in the distance. When I asked if this made her feel different about it she said it didn't bother her at all anymore. We decided to leave it in the distance

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