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    Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    hi

    I am new to this site and just recently got interested in this whole nlp thing, i really want to be less paranoid and was wondering if nlp can help me. I seem to have this idea that everyone is out to get me, which i want to get rid of as i know it is irrational, but i cant help but think that way every time i meet people, can anyone help?

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    What will you do if everyone was out to get you? and what would everyone get you? and do you really think 6.5 Billion people know where you live and would take the time effort and money to jump on a boat, train, car, airplane etc, just to get you? How many times have you been got at in the past? and what would happen if the people who were out to get you were getting you nice things?

    How do you know and are you sure and are you sure enough to be unsure? What do you know that we would have to get you? now as you think about all these questions, allow yourself to look at the way you respond as if you was watching a TV screen, and as you watch that you over there, responding to each question, you can know ask yourself, while looking a yourself on that TV way over there, that you have a choice in the way you think and hold thoughts, so notice your feet on the floor, and notice breathing, and not you are just fine, now place and and all paranoid thoughts up on the TV screen, and notice that there are just thoughts, and you can place any and all paranoid thoughts over there way off, and do this over and over again, and ask the question is feeling that way helpful?

    While you get that answer notice your feet on the floor and breath and notice that its ok, and you can place each and every one of your paranoid thoughts on that screen, and because you have a remote control, you can turn the sounds down, and the colour and brightness lower and lower and again place one old out dated paranoid thought on the screen turn the sound up then down then off, and do the same with the colour, brighteness, and contrast, turn them all up then down, then press the red button and turn the screen off, and repeart this over and over again, place a paranoid thought on the screen, play with the sounds and the colour etc and turn it off, and do each repetition faster and faster, and do it with each and every paranoid thought you think you have ever had first few times with one thought at a time, the 2, then 3 then 4 then 7 then 11 etc, and the more paranoid thoughts you place on the screen the faster you blanck the screen off.

    After doing for a short time you brain will get the pattern and do it all by its self, and if you everneed to feel paranoid for any real reason your be able to.

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Float out into the future to after they have all got you. Look comfortably back and realise "I'm fine.Things are just perfect."


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    Hi Harry,

    Sorry to start out by being pedantic, but NLP cannot help you, only you can do that. Application of NLP might however be useful to you.

    You have had some good responses already IMO. FWIW I think you could be served by a better outcome. Your paranoia is, at least on a site like this, a choice you make, even if it has not felt like that before. What would be your preferred choice ?

    To illustrate the point, if 0 were running away screaming every time someone looks at you and 10 were you embracing complete strangers while you say, "I know you are as glad to meet me as I am delighted to meet you", where would you place your desired style of encounter on a scale of 1 - 10 ?

    Choose a number. Now give it a positive linguistic frame of reference that is meaningful to you, i.e if you can be "less paranoid" you would be more.....what exactly ?

    Put it another way, who would you like to be like ?

    And if you could be like that, see yourself being like that. Clock the physiology, the posture, the position of the eyes, the breathing etc.

    Now, when you are ready, in your mind's eye, step into that person who looks like you doing these things ? Try them on for size. This is your new choice.

    Do something new and unique with your body. This is your anchor to this new state. Do just this as you meet someone new in your new style. Be surprised. Your joy will be infectious to that person.

    Imagine meeting someone now that you would like to meet. See how it goes differently ? See it through your own eyes and notice the difference in how this encounter feels for you. Notice how your internal dialogue has also changed.

    Let us know how you get on, and what you have already tried.

    Regards MH

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    i would suggest you to purchase some tapes with Richard Bandler's seminars. These are very good, but best for you would be to attend some real seminars, try swish pattern, circle of trust, or time floating

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    Quote harryFranklin wrote: View Post
    i really want to be less paranoid
    It's exhausting, isn't it, to be constantly responding to false alarms. But the only thing worse than that would be to miss an actual attack, you know? I mean, what if you just turn the alarm off and then someone really comes after you? You're screwed, right?

    So you turn on the alarm and the sensitivity is all the way up, and you launch an Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile at every flock of migrating geese that is unfortunate enough to cross through your radar. You waste a lot of good missiles that way, and you lose all of your friends, too.

    But what are you supposed to do? Turn it off? Is that smart? Just shut the alarm off and let people drop nukes on our heads without even trying?

    Since the choice is either 0% or 100%, which one do you choose?

    Have I updated the NLPhilia Blog lately?

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    110%

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    Quote venus_brown wrote: View Post
    110%
    What Makes 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%? Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?

    We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%. How about achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life?

    Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these
    questions:

    If:
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

    is represented as:
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

    Then:

    H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K
    8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%


    and


    K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
    11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%

    But ,

    A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E
    1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

    And,

    B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
    2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

    AND, look how far ass kissing will take you.

    A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G
    1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%

    So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty, that While Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, its the
    Bullshit and Ass kissing that will put you over the top.

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Jay,

    I *love* it! Lol.

    Venus

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    You wrote:

    "I seem to have this idea that everyone is out to get me, which i want to get rid of as i know it is irrational, but i cant help but think that way every time i meet people..."

    From a parts perspective, it seems that a certain aspect of you wants to "get rid of" another that is being labeled as paranoid. So it has good reason for being paranoid.

    You're out to get rid of it ----- er um well ---- out to get rid of you.

    I'd be paranoid too.

    But then I would most likely project that "hunting" part out onto humanity at large so I wouldn't feel it.

    I wouldn't want to fully realize it was me.

    And if I did realize it was me ---- out to get me ---- or should I say "In to Get Me. I'd most likely go into some pain that I don't want to feel. Its so irrational!

    And what if I could finally let go that pain?

    Then what would happen?

    trans4m

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Paranoia - being afraid of pain caused to you by something that has very small percent chance of actually happening.

    Reverse Paranoia - being excited for pleasure caused to you by something that has very small percent chance of actually happening.

    The odds of winning the lottery, or randomly hooking up for a one-night stand with a really hot lover, can be as good or even better than the odds of something terrible happening.

    People can only focus on one thought at a time. So why not be a REVERSE PARANOIAC instead? Live your life thinking that the world is plotting FOR YOU, instead of against you. EVERYONE IS OUT to give you more service than your are expecting, more love, more joy, more spending money, more laughter. EVERYONE is plotting for my success.

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Nick

    Tad James would be proud of you. I was just about to respond in the simlar fashion and found your post!

    Tad would possobly add one little bit:

    Float out into the future to after they have all got you and you are OK. Look comfortably back and realise "I'm fine.Things are just perfect." Absorb the good feeling and as you imagine getting back to the now experience that all things align themselves and are perfect because you are.
    Last edited by JurkMalecki; 18th Jun 09 at 12:08 pm. Reason: grammar fix needed

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    Quote harryFranklin wrote: View Post
    hi

    I am new to this site and just recently got interested in this whole nlp thing, i really want to be less paranoid and was wondering if nlp can help me. I seem to have this idea that everyone is out to get me, which i want to get rid of as i know it is irrational, but i cant help but think that way every time i meet people, can anyone help?
    How do you know you're paranoid? Maybe they are out to get you

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Sean,

    I have discovered that, sometimes, this actually the case.

    Venus

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    Quote venus_brown wrote: View Post
    Sean,

    I have discovered that, sometimes, this actually the case.

    Venus
    Yup. One's person's raging paranoia is another's rational response.

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    And all of this is supposed to be so well intended... Tad James hammered it into my head, that there is a positive intention behind each and every behaviour, so if we are not paranoid enough to not to denominalize paranoia, than what is the positive intention of maintainig paranoia, no matter if we are concious of it or not?

    Do you remember Richard Bandler's story on working with the schizoprhenic client who reported that figures came out of his TV and chased him aggresively around his apartment?

    Yes, he advised him to switch the channel to Playboy - and of course this made it fully and competely.

    Long live paranoia, cause only the paranoid survive!!! I do not remember which business consulting guru coined this phrase, but it is damn good, or I am too honest to admit to mine?

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    I like Robert Anton Wilson's contribution to this arena. At any rate I hadn't heard of the concept of pronoia, the idea that the universe is secretly conspiring to help you, before reading his work.


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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    I like pronia.

    I also like the story about the guy who had all the little green people in his head and was asked to just shut them up in the closet in his changeworker's office.

    Worked a dream, it seems.

    Venus

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    Re: Can Nlp Help My Paranoia?

    Why are all these people after Harry's paranoia? Leave it alone!

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    Quote gabe wrote: View Post
    Why are all these people after Harry's paranoia? Leave it alone!
    I have a rather severe case of somnoia. The universe watches me, and it gets so bored it falls asleep.

    Have I updated the NLPhilia Blog lately?

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