What are the forums thoughts on this? It has been suggested that it connects with NLP well, ( I guess from the whole somatic/mind body teaching).

Anybody had experience with this?

Best wishes


Kev

AT has nothing to do with NLP its merely a good way of practising body posture.

I hadn't heard of this before,

Interesting.

in my opinion, this seems for like trance than formal NLP, the demo's on youtube look (to me) like kineasthetic inductions backed up with positive reiforcements - verbally.

I'm quite likely wrong, but thats how it seems to me.

As with most things I find that you can apply the NLP label to most things these days but for me, it's not really about what is what, rather than what works.

It certainly seems like there's plenty of healing intent in the video's I've seen.

Here's one, check out the embedded commands (in NLP speak) and rep system preference about a minute in
[ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdf5tjWrATo&feature=related]YouTube - Impressions of a First Lesson in Alexander Technique[/ame]

As I said, just an idea/opinion/perspective, yours may differ and thats cool.

Enjoy

Andy

Hi,
I've had a few brushes with this and it is a very interesting approach to learning how to move more efficiently.

At the time I wasn't ready to fully integrate it or had some strange reaction to the person teaching it...probably both actually! So I can't contribute any more. I do know that in North America it is well spoken of in our circles.

Be happy!

Isabelle

I've had 2 Alexander Technique sessions and in my opinion there is some common ground with NLP. The practitioner coached me to interupt the unconscious processes of everyday movement, for example sitting down, and replace them with movement governed by a new visualisation. This was mainly imagining an arc forwards and upwards from the back of the head and then following that arc to guide movement. It seemed to be a case of establishing new unconscious patterns. She also taught a new internal dialogue to aid the transition to the new movement.
However she did get quite annoyed with me when I said the whole thing was trance inducing. She kept telling me to open my eyes and pay attention! So she definitely didn't like the suggestion that AT is in any way hypnotic.

I was taught a fair amount of AT as part of my taijiquan training - it's very useful. Any body work, approached correctly, will enhance your kinesthetic awareness in my opinion...
...and facilitating anything can be enhanced with NLP techniques, you just have to use your imagination and creativity, that's all.

:cool:

Nigel Adams wrote:

...and facilitating anything can be enhanced with NLP techniques, you just have to use your imagination and creativity, that's all.

:cool:

Bravo!!!!!

KHill99 wrote:

However she did get quite annoyed with me when I said the whole thing was trance inducing. She kept telling me to open my eyes and pay attention! So she definitely didn't like the suggestion that AT is in any way hypnotic.

Some people don't like it when your labels don't match theirs, I think of it this way,
Lincoln NLP - Real Reality

And smile more.

Enjoy

Andy

I found some similarities with NLP when I had an AT session, particularly physiology over state.......

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Your physiology can affect your state.

lennydw67 wrote:

I found some similarities with NLP when I had an AT session, particularly physiology over state.......

AT was around long before NLP, who was it a few days ago who said 'NLP is the only field you can copy someone elses material and simply refer to it as NLP?? hehe From what I have seen of AT, it was merely for helping voice and keeping good body posture, not state control.

Since NLP is regarded as "the study of subjective experience" surely it covers a whole range of applications?

Its taking what works, and using it.

Peace

Kev

Bubblyjack wrote:

Since NLP is regarded as "the study of subjective experience" surely it covers a whole range of applications?

Its taking what works, and using it.

Peace

Kev

Thats the problem, labelling something NLP when it was already in practice and making out NLP is some wonderful thing that is a manifestation of EVERYTHING that happens to work:- just because something was observed by an NLPer, that does not make it NLP.

Everything?

The guy who i did AT with was a rada trained shakespearian actor....can't remember his name, he was teaching AT as part of a session for presentation skills. He had us adopting many different postures and notice how the posture made us feel....and how 'good' posture would help you feel more confident....

I have no idea if that is part of AT, however he certainly had made the connection between physiology over state. Also I'm quite aware AT has been around ages, does that stop then having some similarities?

Actually did a quick google and got this quote off the first website i came across

It has helped me to undo knots, unblock energy and deal with almost paralysing stage fright.
William Hurt, actor

Jon wrote:

From what I have seen of AT, it was merely for helping voice and keeping good body posture, not state control.

...which is a statement about you and your understanding of the Alexander Technique, Jon...

Body-work affects state, as states always occur within a body.

Try this:

Hunch yourself up as small and tight as possible then try to feel as happy and positive as possible whilst in that posture...

...then sit or stand upright, alert, but relaxed, with your shoulders down and relaxed and your chest expanded and opened, head up, relaxed forehead, open eyes, feet firmly planted and try and feel as negative and depressed as possible...


Now tell me posture has no relationship with state control.



Unconditional positive regards as always

Jon wrote:

AT was around long before NLP, who was it a few days ago who said 'NLP is the only field you can copy someone elses material and simply refer to it as NLP?? hehe From what I have seen of AT, it was merely for helping voice and keeping good body posture, not state control.

Hi Jon

Have you never noticed how body posture is intimately tied up with state control? Someone on here probably knows (I can't remember the details of it) John Grinder's Chain of Excellence - if I recall rightly breathing and physiology are right at the top and are considered governing factors for state.

It is true that AT was around before NLP, but this does not mean that they are not complimentary. I practise Taijiquan and Russian Systema and have found the attributes developed through those disciplines to greatly enhance my application of NLP, and vice versa. Though I think we had this conversation at the last North Hants NLP group.

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried AT - maybe it would help NLP work better for you!? Or how about Feldenkrais - recommended by both Richard Bandler and John Grinder.

All the very best

James

Jon wrote:

Thats the problem, labelling something NLP when it was already in practice and making out NLP is some wonderful thing that is a manifestation of EVERYTHING that happens to work:- just because something was observed by an NLPer, that does not make it NLP.

Hey Jon

I may have missed something, but who on tis thread has labelled AT as NLP?

James


EDIT

Oh, maybe Bubbly Jack is implying this - not sure though as it is not stated explicitly.

J

jamesrolph wrote:

Hey Jon

I may have missed something, but who on tis thread has labelled AT as NLP?

James


EDIT

Oh, maybe Bubbly Jack is implying this - not sure though as it is not stated explicitly.

J

The Well-Formed Statements Investigation Bureau reports:

Bubbly Jack has been found responsible for NLP disharmony in this thread with his alluding statements...

Bubbly Jack, has transgressed the law...!!

...Kill Him!!! lol