Go Back   NLP Connections > NLP in Focus > NLP for Health and Healing



Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 12:34 am
Frequent poster
Username: venus_brown
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Is it actually possible to deliberately induce multiple personalities in an adult? Somehow I doubt it.

venus

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 01:59 am
Frequent poster
Username: Nigel Adams
Member since: Mar 2008
Posts: 771


venus_brown wrote:
Is it actually possible to deliberately induce multiple personalities in an adult? Somehow I doubt it.

venus
According to B & G in "Frogs into Princes" they suspect MPD structures are always created by someone else. This is usually an adult as far as I can tell.
I've never been sure how that could happen, but the main person with MPD I knew only 'discovered' they had multiple personalities when they got together with a very charismatic and controlling partner, I never worked out how it could have happened, but based on B & G's hypothesis, I remain suspicious about what was really going on between them.
I offered to work with the lady in question on reintegrating, but she was quite happy with the state of affairs - MPD had ironically become her 'identity'!!


This message was edited after it was posted. [edit log]

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 06:59 am
Verified Member
Username: 23nlpeople
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 474


Nigel Adams wrote:
I've never been sure how that could happen, but the main person with MPD I knew only 'discovered' they had multiple personalities when they got together with a very charismatic and controlling partner,
And indeed that charismatic partner is nearly always a therapist....

I refer you to this thread on another forum: Handbook of Hypnotic Suggestion & Metaphor - alt.hypnosis | Google Groups#

And:

Handbook of Hypnotic Suggestion & Metaphor - alt.hypnosis | Google Groups

In my post on those threads i reference useful material for those who may want to read something other than NLP books.

Regards,


Andrew Austin

This message was edited after it was posted. [edit log]

Reply With Quote
3 members have given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 12:16 pm
Frequent poster
Username: venus_brown
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Andrew,

With all due respect, when you speak of "Satanic panic" and MPD you really don't know what you're talking about. Because you just don't know what you don't know.

Venus

Reply With Quote
3 members have given this post a 'thumbs down'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 12:19 pm
Verified Member
Username: 23nlpeople
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 474


venus_brown wrote:
Andrew,

With all due respect, when you speak of "Satanic panic" and MPD you really don't know what you're talking about. Because you just don't know what you don't know.

Venus
Oh OK, thanks for letting me know.

Best wishes,

Andrew Austin

Reply With Quote
2 members have given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:00 pm
Frequent poster
Username: Nigel Adams
Member since: Mar 2008
Posts: 771


venus_brown wrote:
Andrew,

With all due respect, when you speak of "Satanic panic" and MPD you really don't know what you're talking about. Because you just don't know what you don't know.

Venus
Venus,
With all due respect, how do you know that you know that Andrew doesn't know?


Reply With Quote


Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:14 pm
Verified Member
Username: map002
Member since: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Hi Nigel,

Have you ever seen Venus and Andrew together at the same time? Or even pictured together at the same event? No? Hmmm...

Think about the subject under discussion here and I think you'll discover there might just be something else going on...

Be Well,

Michael Perez

Reply With Quote
1 member has given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:19 pm
Verified Member
Username: 23nlpeople
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 474


map002 wrote:
Hi Nigel,

Have you ever seen Venus and Andrew together at the same time? Or even pictured together at the same event? No? Hmmm...

Think about the subject under discussion here and I think you'll discover there might just be something else going on...

Be Well,

Michael Perez

Oh no!

It's that Michael and Latoyah Jackson thing all over.

I am Venus's "alter".......

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:21 pm
Verified Member
Username: 23nlpeople
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 474


Actually, now I come to think of it. Michael, what is that you don't know that you didn't do?

Any gaps in your memory at all... hmmmmm?

It's them pesky aliens abducting people again, I tell you!

Reply With Quote


Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:24 pm
Verified Member
Username: map002
Member since: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Hi Andy,

Nah, after the aliens pop 'round I always know because they never use enough 'lube with the probes and I walk funny for a week.

Now on the other hand it might be those damn angels again. I'll have to leave out some traps. Or get a cat.

Be Well,

Michael Perez

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:32 pm
Verified Member
Username: 23nlpeople
Member since: Nov 2005
Posts: 474
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


I was delighted a few years ago to find myself featured on a conspiracy site. I was apparently the head of a "gang stalking" cabal. I'd never heard of the term before and did a google search. It's quite remarkable, and the videos regarding gang stalking on youtube are well worth checking out.

Being the head of a conspiracy was great fun, even if i knew nothing about it. So I put this up to confuse the masses further: 23

I'll try and find the original page that featured me and post here, it makes for interesting reading.... I...felt...like....they....must....be watching.... ME!

Reply With Quote


Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 03:35 pm
Verified Member
Username: map002
Member since: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


On a more serious note, Andrew's posts from alt.hypnosis addressed the (originally) Freudian notion of unconscious repression of memories which he theorised would lead to unexpected behaviours popping up, seemingly out of nowhere.

And along those lines, I was reading an interesting paper on the Freudian idea of symptom substitution, including the notion that if you fix a behaviour without uncovering and dealing with the repressed or suppressed 'root cause', it would pop up as another behaviour. Essentially, the author, after looking at decades of case studies and statistics from behavioural modification therapies (like CBT, for example) and traditional psychotherapy, posits the notion that although the idea of symptom substitution sounds good, it doesn't tend to be borne out in real life unless, it seems, on expects it to be there and then it is...

Interestingly, B&G seem to have both acknowledged and decried these notions sequentially.

Any thoughts/and or ideas on the validity of these notions in your own experiences?

Be Well,

Michael Perez

This message was edited after it was posted. [edit log]
Explanation: Rephrased for greater specificity (by Michael Perez)

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:18 pm
Regular poster
Username: Turil
Member since: Oct 2007
Posts: 244
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Michael, I would think that the root cause of everything we ever do is to stay alive and procreate (genetically and/or memetically). Of course, psychologists tend to like to chunk a bit differently than I do...

-Turil

Reply With Quote


Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:21 pm
Verified Member
Username: map002
Member since: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Hi Turil,

I tend to agree, as you say, in a very large chunk way!

Be Well,

Michael Perez

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:30 pm
Regular poster
Username: Turil
Member since: Oct 2007
Posts: 244
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Which would mean that pretty much every time you do something different, it's a substitution. In which case, the psychologists are right. :-)

Reply With Quote


Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:34 pm
Verified Member
Username: map002
Member since: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,875
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


That makes sense. I ride a bicycle, I really wanted to eat or have sex, so the bicycle is the vagina or a hamburger, or both. I get it!

Be Well,

Michael Perez

Reply With Quote
1 member has given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:45 pm
Verified Member
Username: mrlimbic
Member since: May 2008
Posts: 626


23nlpeople wrote:
I was delighted a few years ago to find myself featured on a conspiracy site. I was apparently the head of a "gang stalking" cabal. I'd never heard of the term before and did a google search. It's quite remarkable, and the videos regarding gang stalking on youtube are well worth checking out.

Being the head of a conspiracy was great fun, even if i knew nothing about it. So I put this up to confuse the masses further: 23

I'll try and find the original page that featured me and post here, it makes for interesting reading.... I...felt...like....they....must....be watching.... ME!
I did a googlism out of curiosity and apparently you are also "one of our best human beings!!" What do you reckon??
Googlism for: andrew austin


andrew austin is senior consultant specialising in advice to uk and multinational companies on their banking arrangements
andrew austin is not familiar with the various writings/teaching on nonviolence
andrew austin is one of our best human beings
andrew austin is co
andrew austin is a 17
andrew austin is a nlper and a registered nurse
andrew austin is an economics professor at the university of houston
andrew austin is a qualified electronics engineer with some 20 years’ experience in the field
andrew austin is assistant professor of social change and development and sociology at the university of wisconsin
andrew austin is vice president of business development

Googlism

This message was edited after it was posted. [edit log]

Reply With Quote
1 member has given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:56 pm
Verified Member
Username: mrlimbic
Member since: May 2008
Posts: 626
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Nigel,

..and just what are these plans for world domination and maximun compliance then? Google is onto you..

"nigel adams is to have absolute control over all compliance and we are giving him the resources and staff to ensure the success of his mission in this vital"

Reply With Quote
1 member has given this post a 'thumbs up'.

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 05:59 pm
Verified Member
Username: pcadams
Member since: May 2008
Posts: 993
Re: Bipolar Disorder & NLP


Where exactly do you come up with this stuff, John...???

....and I would never suggest to you that you have too much time on your hands...

Reply With Quote

Message posted: 29th Jul 08, 06:02 pm
Verified Member
Username: mrlimbic
Member since: May 2008
Posts: 626


pcadams wrote:
Where exactly do you come up with this stuff, John...???

....and I would never suggest to you that you have too much time on your hands...
it takes a second to do.. you are apparently "the best kept secret of the pros"

Googlism for Phil Adams

Off to my capoeira class now.. have fun with googlism.. look up you friends..

Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bipolar irinakupcha NLP Forum 4 8th Dec 07 06:21 pm
Body Identity Integrity Disorder brynbach NLP Forum 16 21st Feb 07 05:47 pm

Adverts





  NLP Connections is owned and run by Chris Morris and NLP Connections Limited. All rights reserved.