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    Botezatu Claudiu has 2 stars

    Posted: 9th Jul 09, 09:30 pm offline

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    Smoking Question


    I have a colleague that is a smoker, and i would like to help her quit. I am untrained in NLP, only book reading on my own. I'd like to try make her remember a time when she felt very good without smokes, anchor that feeling, make her imagine a cigar break and then fire the anchor. Would that work? If this is silly please let me know. Thank you.

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    Posted: 10th Jul 09, 01:32 pm offline

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    Golden first rule - your colleague must be adamant that she really wants to quit smoking, otherwise your best efforts will almost certainly have a short-term effect only.

    Your anchoring approach is certainly not silly! You could also create a 'disgust' anchor based on her negative smoking-related experiences (smoking too much, stale smelling clothes, etc.) attached to the act of putting a cigarette to her mouth.

    Help her with your support and belief in a positive outcome, and consider looking into some training when you feel you would like to do more with NLP.



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    Posted: 11th Jul 09, 07:47 pm offline

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    Quote teki wrote: View Post
    I have a colleague that is a smoker, and i would like to help her quit. I am untrained in NLP, only book reading on my own. I'd like to try make her remember a time when she felt very good without smokes, anchor that feeling, make her imagine a cigar break and then fire the anchor. Would that work? If this is silly please let me know. Thank you.
    You like books? Read "Loving the self absorbed" by Nina W Brown and this will waken up what you've been missing in what all you want to presently anchor. Also, about self empowerment as being ignorant's no excuse.

    To spruce up 'when reading, imagine that the author is a girlfriend of a boyfriend whose an aviator fighter trained in the business of combat by which also has the narcissist girlfriend which who doesn't smoke.

    Nicotilic's (as oppose to alcoholic's) requires to be a healthy adult narcissist as oppose to a outgrown normal narcissist squirt (kid). Might as well figure to throw all these in to qualify the smokers' stint thread.

    Good luck, and ENJOY!


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    Posted: 11th Jul 09, 11:19 pm offline

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    I don't think it comes to self empowerment since i have no intention in charging her any fee. About the ignorance is half true. But I'll try anyway .Thank you for your kind advice Mike.

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    Posted: 12th Jul 09, 01:20 am offline

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    Quote teki wrote: View Post
    I don't think it comes to self empowerment since i have no intention in charging her any fee. About the ignorance is half true. But I'll try anyway .Thank you for your kind advice Mike.
    I don't know what advise given you were talking about to me giving you, including my ignorance being half true? Suppose I was just flicking a booger while my other hand some typing, and both hands need to talk to each other huh, I guess. (no advise giving from me, not supporting dependency and merely suggesting).

    To me to be self-empower is a good thing to you to her and everyone as the more the merrier this world will be, including without charge I interpolate.

    Even SO I am astonish amazingly with my self how I can get 'confuse (a NLP rant), ridiculous even stupid on time by time because that's the beginning to welcome clarity which is suppose to arrive when. Let me quit while no ones ahead. Hope you get get her, eh quit smoking.

    Your Welcome, and for what it's worth to you.
    Last edited by Mikee; 12th Jul 09 at 01:48 am.

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    Posted: 12th Jul 09, 11:28 am offline

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    As an ex smoker I don't think anyone could have got me to quit. I just decided I didn't want to do it any more and looked for ways to make the stopping process easier. At the time it was the idea that I only enjoyed 2 or 3 cigarettes a day that was the decider for me, I was smoking 20 a day.

    I stopped by removing the link to various pleasurable activities, initailly not for 5 mins after a drink, then 15 mins then an hour. Not last thing at night, first thing in the morning, after meals etc. I was still able to smoke at all other times.

    Eventually (after about 4 weeks I think) all the fun anchors were gone. I still smoked but only an hour after anything interesting. I put the last 10 cigarettes in a jar, added water and screwed up the top.

    If I ever fancied a cigarette again I had a sniff of the jar.

    This was long before I knew about NLP but a lot of the principles are there if you look.


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    Quote southnick wrote: View Post
    As an ex smoker I don't think anyone could have got me to quit. I just decided I didn't want to do it any more and looked for ways to make the stopping process easier. At the time it was the idea that I only enjoyed 2 or 3 cigarettes a day that was the decider for me, I was smoking 20 a day.

    I stopped by removing the link to various pleasurable activities, initailly not for 5 mins after a drink, then 15 mins then an hour. Not last thing at night, first thing in the morning, after meals etc. I was still able to smoke at all other times.

    Eventually (after about 4 weeks I think) all the fun anchors were gone. I still smoked but only an hour after anything interesting. I put the last 10 cigarettes in a jar, added water and screwed up the top.

    If I ever fancied a cigarette again I had a sniff of the jar.

    This was long before I knew about NLP but a lot of the principles are there if you look.

    Nick, Nice going for you!

    Would you care to elaborate further on those principles?

    It's so nice and easy to say 'I decided' to without the reasons and how well for the decisions were made, and as if it were just like magic not being heavily addicted to nicotine.

    Nevertheless, I think I know what you mean and you don't have to dig up the reasons for reminisceing accidently reverting the habit.

    Good for you, and I appreciate your candor or candid.

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    Hi,

    Does your friend want to quit? Why? What is it she is getting out of smoking and what are the benefits of quitting? These are the questions you need to ask first. Are there times when she is inclined to smoke? Smokes more? These are the triggers and the patterns.

    Any habit consists of numerous components; the actual behavior which involves the kinesthetics of doing something (in this case reaching for the smoke, lighting it and placing it in the mouth and inhalation), a strategy just before reaching for the cigarette (internal syntax - they say something to themselves and/or see a brief image) which is a trigger to reach for the substance, a context which is trigger for starting the chain of activities leading to a behavior (she knows when to reach for it whenever that is).

    To help her break the habit, you must interrupt the patterns at all levels. Make her reach for it with the other hand ("in vain") and do it that way, make her hold it for 40 seconds, change the internal dialogue just before to something very unpleasant such as tasting really fresh, cat shit (make this metaphor very "juicy"), reframe the context when it happens or slow the time between the occurrence of the trigger and the activity (use some hypnosis here).

    I had a client once with whom I used the cat shit metaphor. I got them to close their eyes and handed them the cat shit. They freaked out and ceased to smoke. It was a radical move on my part but worked. Give it a shot.

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