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    Developing Visual Modality

    Hi, i have searched the archive but cant find anything that helps me for exercises or tips on how to improve my internal visual modality because it is just a quick vague flash and i can never find the location submodality

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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    simple! Practice, practice, practice!

    Focus on holding that "vague flash" longer and longer, really concentrate, and when you lose it, bring it back again. Try and zoom in to details.

    If thats too vague for you, start with something simpler. You can see with your eyes even if you have a hard time visualizing, so stare at something still for a few seconds, and close your eyes, pretending that you can still see it. Then practice holding that image. Try changing the details, like color, or shape, and make it change into something similar.

    The more you practice, the easier it will become!

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    Hi

    Image streaming will get you really good at visualizing in only a few short practice sessions check the link out and learn the process. Project Renaissance, Image-Streaming

    J

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    thanks arlo good advice about keeping it simple because i think that might be a problem im trying to create a rich detailed visualisation straight away when with most things in life dont start lifting 200lb weights until youve mastered the 50lb weights first!

    And cheers jay i'll check that link now!

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    Ps i can never find the location, my images always appear in front of me but i think that is because i am conciously bringing them in front, but if i always bring my images directly in front of me will i get confused on which is past and future as location is the submodality indicating your timeline?

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    Hi Ryan


    The images are where the images are- if you have then - front back side, matters not- as long has you have a sense of an image- even if you feel you bring it forward, it fine, go with what you have, the nature of subjectivity is its your own truth, so it matters not, what ever images you have and how ever you hold them in your minds eye- is fine, and you might even find that they are not always fixed/static so the rule of thumb is work with what you have , and go from there, because you can always change things back.


    J

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    Dear Ryan,

    If you want to convince yourself that you can sustain mental imagery, try a few sessions in a sensory deprivation tank. A large part of your conscious mind is processing the world around you as well as the inside. When you suspend the external processing, the extent to which your internal signals come to the fore might just dazzle you.

    Just a thought

    MH

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    Quote Jay Budzynski wrote: View Post
    Hi

    Image streaming will get you really good at visualizing in only a few short practice sessions check the link out and learn the process. Project Renaissance, Image-Streaming

    J
    brilliant link! I was wondering how important the tape recorder/ other person was? could i just imagine 'as if' im narrating to another person?

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    yes you can just talk to yourself if you want. It apparently works better with a person or tape recorder but I have never done it that way and it works just fine for me. I've found the best place to do this is either in the bath or just as you are going to sleep. In other words, it works better if you are experiencing Theta brain waves which can be brought on by the sound of water or as the precurser to sleep

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    Adding a newbie question to the thread...

    If my favored REP system for a specific behavior (that I would like to change) is NOT Visual, doesn't it make sense to work on techniques that are suitable for my favored REP systems (kinesthetic or auditory) rather than develop the unfavored (visual) REP system and then work on exercises that are specific to that REP system? Because for that particular behavior, my brain would not have any or have very little information coded using my unfavored REP system. Generalizing this up by one level...assuming that if for most of my behavior I don't use visual REP system, could it be possible that I can achieve the same outcomes by just focusing on techniques/patterns/exercises that are specific to kinesthetics and auditory (assuming kinesthetic is my favored REP)?

    I know I am missing an AHA point...but not sure what it is. Thoughts appreciated! Thanks!

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    everyone is capable of using all the rep systems. only using your preferred system would mean you are missing out on a huge box of tools that are available to you. It doesn't take long to learn to visualise so just stick at it and you'll be fine.

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    Re: Developing Visual Modality

    Would it be of any use to start small? Imagine objects in your day to day life with different colours. For example, if you drive a white car, how would it look in red? If your couch is brown, what would it look like in leather? Is your house brick? Imagine how it would look if it were made out of wood? Then you can start trying hard visuals like imagine two a horse, with the wings of a duck on its back. Or imagine your car with the legs of a lion. Or see what it would look like if your friend had an extra arm. The more you use it, the better you will get

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    Quote bharathkumars wrote: View Post

    If my favored REP system for a specific behavior (that I would like to change) is NOT Visual, doesn't it make sense to work on techniques that are suitable for my favored REP systems (kinesthetic or auditory) rather than develop the unfavored (visual) REP system and then work on exercises that are specific to that REP system? Because for that particular behavior, my brain would not have any or have very little information coded using my unfavored REP system. Generalizing this up by one level...assuming that if for most of my behavior I don't use visual REP system, could it be possible that I can achieve the same outcomes by just focusing on techniques/patterns/exercises that are specific to kinesthetics and auditory (assuming kinesthetic is my favored REP)?
    Absolutely! Let's hear it for auditory and kinaesthetic preferences!


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