The 3D Mind - Eye Patterns Explained!

So wandering around my brain this morning I came up with a way to look at the way we look at things.

We already know, from traditional NLP eye accessing patterns, that the horizontal left/right line of our visual field relates to past thoughts (internal-remembered-thoughts) vs. future thoughts (external-constructed-thoughts). We look to our left to think of our internal past thoughts, and look to our right to think of external future thoughts.

And we already know from time-line therapy, that the (generally) horizontal forward/backward line of our experience relates to past experiences (internally-remembered sensations) vs. future experiences (externally-constructed sensations).

And it seems, if you get a bit inquisitive about the vertical line of the eye accessing pattern, that the bottom/top line of our visual field relates to the past/internal emotions vs. future/external emotions. We look down to feel our internal past feelings, and look up to feel our external future feelings.

Put it all together and you get a 3D map of how we perceive our world! And using the traditional Cartesian grid with X, Y, Z as the axes, the three dimensions we perceive (from our inner
self's perspective with 0,0,0 being the very center of our core self) are:

X = intellect
ranging from past/interior/matter to future/exterior/energy

Y = emotions
ranging from past/interior/matter to future/exterior/energy

Z = physical
ranging from past/interior/matter to future/exterior/energy

I'm working on integrating the kind of 3D controller used in airplanes into my mind, so that I might be able to use it to control myself better as I move through time and space.

Kinda cool, don't you think?

Peace, Love, and Bicycles
-Turil

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It's a pretty picture, for those who are more visual than audio-digital:



Yep!

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

Turil, interesting!

Have youy personally run much calibration or testing at this stage?

al

What do you base the connection between 'remembered'='internal past' and 'created'='external future' on?

For a counterexample - you could create a past event on my timeline - and if you would pay enough effort into setting it up properly, it would stay there, just as a real memory. How does it fit the created/future setup?

Turil,

You really love making up your diagrams don't you!

What is an "external future feeling"?

John

Al, I've mostly paid attention to the emotional/vertical plane, personally, since that's the one I have the most trouble with. :-) It's also the one that NLP seems to have the least understanding of. Which is where I come in. I like to play with the stuff that no one knows about, yet...

I'd be curious if others tried working with the emotional/vertical line to see what they come up with. I mean, it's pretty obvious that when we look down, we tend to be more "low" emotionally, either depressed, or just in a navel gazing kind of mood. And that third eye up in the forehead is clearly pretty high minded, and enlightened, at least when the sun is out. :-) But I wonder if the effects of moving the eyes down or up are as direct and simple as that.

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

What do you base the connection between 'remembered'='internal past' and 'created'='external future' on?

The connection between the past and the future is one of movement from here to there, which is essentially internal to external. Right now I'm here, inside me. In the future, I'll be out there, somewhere else. In the intellectual (the mind bit in mind/body/spirit) timeline, that path from past to future takes on the form of fact-based memory moving to creativity-based imagination, which we know from NLP means lateral eye movements.

For a counterexample - you could create a past event on my timeline - and if you would pay enough effort into setting it up properly, it would stay there, just as a real memory. How does it fit the created/future setup?

Because all information in your head is "created" in some sense (cobbled together from external and internal information that has been filtered, rearranged, labeled, and sorted), once you've created a thought, any thought, and then moved into the future physically (to, say, tomorrow) that previously created thought becomes a very real memory, regardless of whether or not it "really happened" externally.

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

You really love making up your diagrams don't you!

It is indeed one of my favorite things to do! It brings my visual, audio-digital, and kinesthetic processes into play, which makes me learn better, and then I get to play show and tell!-)

What is an "external future feeling"?

Good question. It seems to be a feeling that one imagines could happen. A feeling we've never had before (thus the externalness of it) but a feeling we are able to imagine "growing into" in the future. As you imagine feeling lighter, brighter, more completely full of joy, notice where your eyes move...

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

Hi, thanks for your quick answer.

The connection between the past and the future is one of movement from here to there, which is essentially internal to external. Right now I'm here, inside me. In the future, I'll be out there, somewhere else.

Umm, unless you mean a fairly far future, I'd guess you would still be here, inside yourself, even if that yourself would be at a different location. It's quite possible that I just don't understand something about it, but the division you use just seems completely arbitrary to me.

In the intellectual (the mind bit in mind/body/spirit) timeline, that path from past to future takes on the form of fact-based memory moving to creativity-based imagination, which we know from NLP means lateral eye movements.

What about fake, implanted memories then (as in the infamous experiment, when the changing of one word in a single sentence -how fast was the car going when it hit/touched/crushed into the other car?- very significantly changed the recalled memories)?

It seems to be a feeling that one imagines could happen. A feeling we've never had before (thus the externalness of it) but a feeling we are able to imagine "growing into" in the future. As you imagine feeling lighter, brighter, more completely full of joy, notice where
Turil

In order to imagine something I have to be able to create that thing in my experience so by definition I can already do it, even though I might not yet do it often as I might want in my daily life..

If I can kinesthetically hallucinate a feeling then it is a feeling I am capable of having. If I can visually hallucinate an image then it is an image I am capable of seeing with my visual apparatus!

You cannot have a problem without being also aware at some level that there is a solution.. its implied in the definition.. or else how would you know its a problem?

You don't get many people reporting with problems of being unhappy about not having 6 arms.. However, if there were people with 6 arms in the world, you might get more 2 armed people being unhappy about this and defining it as a problem..

The future, even the next millisecond, is external because your insides have not experienced it yet. The only thing that you have inside you is the past. The things you eat, breathe, drink, smell, hear, see, or otherwise absorb.

And while the diagram I've got here is somewhat arbitrary, as any map must be, it seems to be pretty universal for human beings. Just like the Earth has north and south poles (arbitrary names for very a objective relationship to the + and – magnetic forces of the planet), we humans seem to have an orientation that gives us + and a – polarities, which we associate with past/interior and future/exterior in three different forms (physical, emotional, and intellectual).

And I was trying to answer your question about "fake" memories with my comment about all memories being "created". Every thought we have is "fake", as it's a symbol of reality, rather than reality itself. Thus, our minds don't differentiate between memories we've created entirely from internal sources, and memories we've created from external sources. In other words, to our brains, the tree we imagine in our minds is just as real as the tree we imagine outside of our minds.

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

In order to imagine something I have to be able to create that thing in my experience so by definition I can already do it, even though I might not yet do it often as I might want in my daily life..

If I can kinesthetically hallucinate a feeling then it is a feeling I am capable of having. If I can visually hallucinate an image then it is an image I am capable of seeing with my visual apparatus!

You cannot have a problem without being also aware at some level that there is a solution.. its implied in the definition.. or else how would you know its a problem?

You don't get many people reporting with problems of being unhappy about not having 6 arms.. However, if there were people with 6 arms in the world, you might get more 2 armed people being unhappy about this and defining it as a problem..

A feeling is external and in the future until it's internal and in the past (or at least on the surface of "now"). In the future, it's a potentiality, in the past it's a part of you. Of course, even young babies have lots of feelings already inside them, having experienced them in the past, but each time a person feel something it's always different and new, even if only by the tiniest fraction. For example, I've felt a wooden table before, but I've never felt this particular wooden table that I'm sitting at right now before, and I've never felt it in this particular state (with a tiny scratch that I just made in it with my thumbnail), so the feeling, while similar to past wooden table feelings, is indeed a different feeling, that was external to me until a few minutes ago. And, the somewhat unintuitive idea is that the things we can imagine happening in the future, like what the table next to the one I'm sitting at might feel like, if I sat there tomorrow, is external to me, until I actually do it, even though I can imagine doing it, and feel something "like" what it would really feel if I did do it.

I'm not sure how well I'm addressing your thoughts there. Too many cashews for breakfast make me feel a bit wonky in the head. I kind of lost you when you started talking about problems and imagining solutions. I understand what you say, but I'm not sure how it relates to what I was talking about. Regardless, I pretty much agree, with the idea that an imagined solution is implied in the concept of a problem.

Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil

Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be using 'internal/external' in relation to what I would probably think as concepts around time??..

Is this your way of relating to time (organising them in space?). Sounds like timelines..

Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be using 'internal/external' in relation to what I would probably think as concepts around time??..

Is this your way of relating to time (organising them in space?). Sounds like timelines..

Yes. Time is simply a dimension of space. We grow through time, and as we do, we bring more of the external into ourselves, making it internal. Until we die, and our insides return to the outside...

-Turil