Hi All

I have posted a new blog thread - I would really appreciate your comments on it. You can read and comment on the thread here...

http://lizzinlp.blogspot.com/

Thanks

Lizzi

Lizzi,
 
You said in your blog that you had searched the internet. I'm guessing you didn't search on this forum, or you might have found something on 'Is nlp a cult?' that I posted here, back in September, 2006.
 
If it helps you find it, the first 50 words of that post are:
 
"Ramon,
 
"A while back some guy at a British university produced a report on what characterized five modern cults.
 
"1. Appeals to the young and lonely, socially inept, or vulnerable.
 
"2. Initial approach overwhelming and supplying many of the missing needs. One cult's own term for this was 'love bombing'."
 
I also followed that post with another one, giving the sources that I based that post on.
 
As for the supposed links between Scientology and nlp - oh dear, that one again.
 
If you want a detailed and accurate account of Scientology, forget the internet. Go to your nearest public library and ask them to get you the following via Interloan:
 
Barrett, David V (2001) The New Believers: A Survey of Sects, Cults, and Alternative Religions, Cassell & Co, London, England.
 
Lastly, I notice that you refer to "the presuppositions" - search on this forum for a couple of posts by me on that too - and find out why it's just plain stupid to go on calling them presuppositions.
 
Eric.

Thank you for your feedback Eric

Lizzi, You might be interested in the Bonewitz Cult Danger Evaluation Frame, which is used by law enforcement in some parts of the United States. http://www.unc.edu/~reddeer/tenets/abcdef.pdf I scored NLP as a 37. Anything over 100 is probably heading into the danger zone. There are at least a couple of 'net trolls who have an agenda of equating NLP with Scientology, often by asking questions of the kind that you answered. Other than the fact that L. Ron Hubbard did incorporate some basic knowledge of hypnosis into his weird brew, there's little other similarity. NLP is a set a of tools. Scientology is a set of religious dogmas. It's like comparing apples and oranges, or perhaps apples and tin foil hats.

Hi Lizzi,

Andy Bradbury's site has some very useful FAQs including this one....

http://www.bradburyac.mistral.co.uk/nlpfax23.htm

Cheers,

Kevin

I think it's also well worth separating two separate but often confused ideas.

1. What NLP is

2. How certain groups of people behave in the name of NLP

Are there cultish behaviours in and around NLP? Yes. Does everyone exhibit those behaviours? No. Are the skills, ideas and models that we collectively know as NLP necessarily cultish? No. So what does that make NLP?

Cheers

If I may add to Stephen's list:

3. How certain (Malevolent or otherwise) groups in the name of something else behave in using certain techniques that may or may not look like NLP, be mistaken for NLP....by people who know little or nothing of NLP.