Is there a danger that anyone these days can go to a paul Mckenna or Bandler seminar and suddenly declare themselves fit to work with the public. I have seeked help on many occassions for a problem and spent a lot of money on 'Master Practitionars' only to still have the problem.. I think people are too quick to make all these claims and take your money but im very weary of there ability to change anything. I even worked with Bandler in a small group in London, It cost a small fortune and a large part of my mothers inheritance but I desperately needed help, I still had my problem, although admittedly some aspects of my life did seem to change for the better I really wanted to address something that I specified and It never materialized. Im a bit dissallusioned by the whole thing..

I'm not an NLP practitioner yet, so I'm just trying to see things from your perspective.

It may seem the most obvious question, but what exactly is the problem you are experiencing?

Have you only been to an NLP practitioner with this problem or have you tried other therapies first?

Martin,

Well Done. It would seem you have taken personal responsability for your own growth and personal development by posting here. Part of that responsability (response-ability) is knowing that any practitioner cannot magically help you but is only putting you in touch with your own resources (re-source). You are right to question, as nlp IMO is going through a period of self examination, on mass, as some of the recent threads here will attest to (are we congruent that nlp is NOT therapy).
This forum has a wealth of experts, of all kinds, who are beyond anything i could have imagined when i first joined this forum back in 2008. Many will give of their time and expert knowledge if you would consider posting what it is you would like to change in your life (consider posting knew thread with your questions). You are right to be examining your life and wanting to change areas of difficulty. The strongest area of the body is any healed scar tissue or bone that has been healed.

Best wishes....

Thanks for your replies, I didn't mean to sound like I was completely disregarding NLP, like I say I did make some changes though Im not even sure how.. I am working on self esteem, particularly having a sense of just being normal and like everyone else. At the moment I am far too quiet and sensitive and have ran from Jobs and circumstances if I encounter even a hint of confrontation.. its the classic 'flight' response and although it gives me temporary comfort it has devastated my life.. imagine trying to explain to relatives why you have had so many Jobs or failed at so many things.. I could probably guesse as to why this materialized but im not sure if personal history is useful in this context is it? not sure I just keep rnning the same old patterns though and its all to do with feeling rejected, humiliated, made to feel like a laughing stock and the hurt associated with that. I think perhaps aI have generalized that experience into a lot of new ones and thats what I run from..

There is the possibility of an undiagnosed anxiety disorder. If you have persistent symptoms that interfere with your functioning you might consider consulting with a Psychiatrist.

Bufo Marinus wrote:

There is the possibility of an undiagnosed anxiety disorder. If you have persistent symptoms that interfere with your functioning you might consider consulting with a Psychiatrist.

thanks, although I find it amazing an nlp sight recommending a psychologist .. did bandler not make a career condeming the field of psychology as something that did not work? Do psychologists have skills that are beyond the realms of nlp?

Psychologists are people who take a degree without medical training, psychiatrists have to be medically trained in the UK. It means they can prescribe drugs if you need them and psychologists can't.

Bandler is an amazing showman, he demonstrates his skills all the time when he works, it doesn't mean he is always right though.

mboy wrote:

thanks, although I find it amazing an nlp sight recommending a psychologist .. did bandler not make a career condeming the field of psychology as something that did not work? Do psychologists have skills that are beyond the realms of nlp?

NLP can do the things that NLP is effective for. I personally think it is shameful to suggest, imply, hint at, to give someone to believe, that NLP is an appropriate avenue of therapy for any serious disorder of mood (depression, mania, bipolar disorders, rapid cycling disorders), serious disorders of personality (paranoia, schziodal and schizotypal disorders, histrionic disorders, character disorders such as socipoathy, borderline disorder, and so on), not to mention major disorders like schizophrenia...

It isn't, and to covertly promote it as otherwise is dishonest and evil. And to attempt to promote NLP as an valid alternative by disparagement of legitimate methods is just as dishonest and evil.

Many psychological problems require a well formed expertise in diagnosis, selection of appropriate medication, and patient management. Serious matters must be treated in a serious manner by people who know what they are talking about and have years of proper training.

If you are suffering emotional pain, confusion, lack of the ability to cope with the social world, persistent feelings of inadequacy, anxiety, or anything of the like you should probably see a Psychiatrist, a licensed medical doctor who is also trained in Psychology.

Right away.

I dont know If I have any of those things.. im certainly not depressed, certain things in my life work well but there are things that are very badly wrong, I struggle very much with inadequacy in certain situations, I need to be around people I am comfortable with and it has caused difficulty. I am scared of the thought of having to take medication but I guesse whatever works.. It has to be better than feeling like you have to run away. I can go out with frieds and enjoy a drink, I can do normal things, I am 6 months away from a really good honours degree in Engineering.. I am proud of what I have done, but I struggle with these feelings when I am in a new group of people or unfamiliar territory.. ultimately I have been through a lot of things in my life, a lot of rejection and feelings of fear and abandonment. It causes me to seek approval , and as you can imagine, aproval seeking behaviour causes you to get anything but approval from anyone.. If there are any NLP techniques that might be able to help I would be really happy to try and would appreciate any sort of help

thanks

Alternatively, you could go to your local doctor and they might be able to prescribe you some anti-anxiety medication.

You could try EFT as a form of self help. You can download the free manual off the emofree website or find a practitioner in your area.