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    A or F?


    Seeing the letter A before an exam can improve a student's exam result while exposure to the letter F may make a student more likely to fail. This is the finding of a study published in the British Journal of Educational Psychology in March 2010.
    Exposure to letters A or F can affect test performance

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    http://www.businessadviser.com/humber.htm

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    What if you have an E before?

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    Quote chris_morris wrote: View Post
    What if you have an E before?
    ...and T after.

    John

    If you don't read the newspaper then you are uninformed and
    if you do read the newspaper then you are misinformed

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    Would that work with a 'No.1' or '100%'? Applying the same reasoning, it should..

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    I read something similar a while back about using red ink. Teachers were being encouraged to mark up papers with different colors. (I later read how the color red tends to be associated with all kinds of bad stuff, even instinctively.)

    Some claim that teachers marking only what is wrong teaches students to look only for what's wrong in their lives. While I don't really agree with that (I think that behavior is instinctive), are any of you aware of experiments in which teachers marked only what their students got right? It'd be interesting to see if it made any difference.

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    Wow! Could it be? A ritual frame?


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    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah now I understand

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    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFlipin eck

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    How interesting!
    When I wa doing a Royal Horticultural society course some years ago question papers were marked with points awarded for the answers as they would be in the exam. Part of the lesson time was given to going over the questions and recapping on the points that a student would be expected to make. spelling mistakes were corrected above the offending word. I found this so much more useful than the method I had been tortured with at school where I dreaded the teachers red pen.

    As an aside I was interested to see in Egyptian tombs that the outlines of the paintings and hyraglyphs were first made in red, then the master craftsman would make any necessary adjustments in black.

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    I always remember how the first years of school, the first people on the list (alphabetical) used to get better grades and be generally more brilliant..good grades faded away as one would approach Z...

    Years after there was one or two surprises but generally it stayed pretty much that way. Anything after J was hopeless ( )) )

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    Quote eliansito wrote: View Post
    I always remember how the first years of school, the first people on the list (alphabetical) used to get better grades and be generally more brilliant..good grades faded away as one would approach Z...

    Years after there was one or two surprises but generally it stayed pretty much that way. Anything after J was hopeless ( )) )
    You should be grateful it doesn't work with the last letter of your name

    Apparently this sort of thing happens in all kinds of different contexts including career choices. For example a Mr baker is more likely to become a baker than a Mrs Tailor. A Mrs Tailor is more likely to become a Tailor than a mr Cook etc.

    My second name is Good-all. Does that mean I'm more likely to become good at all things than others? Or is it as my so called my mate says "It's short for Good-for-F**k-All!"

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    lol Jerez is "spanish sherry wine"...could have been the last drunk to leave the tavern too...haha

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    Perhaps the teachers were getting tired by the time they marked the zzzzzzzzz.

    We were often asked questions alphabetically when I was at school so the the bell would ring before they got to the end.Perhaps the early letters got more attention.

    Have a look at the birth dates of top footballers and you will find they tend to cluster in certain months from September onwards. There are far fewer as you move into the middle of the next year.


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    Quote southnick wrote: View Post
    Have a look at the birth dates of top footballers and you will find they tend to cluster in certain months from September onwards. There are far fewer as you move into the middle of the next year.
    There's a good bit in Outliers about that. Have you read it? Great book.

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    That's where I got it from Chris, great book. I'm wondering now if I got the time of year right.

    The crux of this is that when youngsters are chosen for a team it tends to be the oldest ones for their year group that are chosen since they are bigger and stronger at the critical age.

    On a totally unrelated point Chris, have you read "Gut feelings", it is by the guy who provided a lot of the source material for another of Gladwell's books "Blink". I found the hardback remaindered in Borders in Atlanta last month.Great book, don't know why it isn't more popular.


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    Hey Nick, I've read Gut Feelings and liked it a lot. I think Gladwell made the ideas more accessible but most of the time, when I have time, I like to go back to the source(s) because often there's a lot more to learn and different interpretations to make.

    It's the same with NLP. RB may have "discovered and developed" Submodalities, but he did it after reading Kabbalah. And after I read the Kabbalah texts too, my understanding and use of Submodalities became much bolder, richer and more useful to me.

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    @Chris....

    Yes, fascinating, i have never read or heard Bandler mention Kabbalah before...is this common knowledge? Could i also ask which Kabbalah texts made your understanding of submodalities bolder, richer and more useful? Would they be the source material or later interventions? In other words are you refering to the Zohar and other rabbinical texts or later developments?

    Fascinated....

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