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    Tongue and It's Effect on Brain Activity?


    Yo. As far as i've heard - head voice is a small micro-movements on your tongue.
    I've came here with the hope of finding some info on this.
    I've noted that using different positions for my tongue in my mouth (example - relaxed touching lower teeth, or touching the soft palate under the lower teeth) results in slightly different kind of Mind Activity.

    I'm young i'm into martial arts, school, relationships - You see, this defines a lot for me, so any info here will be helpful.
    If you have questions - ask.
    Thank you.

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    If you hold your tounge on the soft spot in the top of your mouth, your internal dialog silense.

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    It's not about "having" or not "having" internal dialog.

    The real deal has something to do with "Presence" "Power of Now" and other shits. I have no idea why, but if i hold my tongue under my teeth i kinda see all things in much greater detail, with added glow and joy from watching them.
    So it really differs.

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    "I kinda see all things in much greater detail, with added glow and joy."

    If you get those benefits, Dimitar, what else do you need? Do you think that having "info" or "more info" will make the experience any better?

    It probably won't. It may even get in the way.

    Why not relax, keep doing it - when you want - and enjoy.

    Eric.

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    Okay i will explain.
    You guys probably have no idea, or don't give a fuck about these things. But i'm into studying energy/chakras and etc.
    You see - there are levels of communication and presence.

    My whole quest right now is about finding what it means to Open your Heart. Not speaking from your super-ego, but truly share higher vibe with ppl who can do the same.
    And don't give me those fluffy quotes, it's not just about "thinking" about it. It is a certian feeling. I probably have felt it, but i can't find out which one which is.

    It's a long explanaition. I'm kinda different when i don't keep my tongue on the soft palate.
    Maybe i just disconnected the chain that way. But when i do touch it - i'm more creative and etc. But maybe i'm just boosting my ego? Or maybe when i leave it on the soft area, tongue is under stress, so it creates extra thinking.
    Idk. And i don't want you guys to tell me these little things. I just want to know it's role on the mind and body's energy, i will experiment and make the conclusions myself.

    You see - i don't need to know that knowledge. If i'm to know the feeling - fuck the labelling. But it is very very abstract, so here i am.

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    You sure know how to win friends, Dimitar. And you're right, I "probably have no idea."

    The "trick" of using the tongue against the teeth is one way to shut off your internal dialog. But it is only one way. And if used repeatedly or heavily, the effect may only last two or three days.

    Then, if you're really insistent, your heavy Ad will run "over" the attempts to silence it.

    As to "there are levels of communication and presence" - again, what do I know?

    I do know that stopping your Ad - with or without a trick IS DIFFERENT FROM the kind of energy exploration you ask about.

    And most of that - energy explorations - can't be done by "tricks".

    You say "I just want to know its role in the mind and body's energy." I've just told you. There is no "connecting role".

    You will indeed have to experiment and find the rest out for yourself.
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    First - thank you very much!

    What is "Ad" ?

    And i've found that this tongue against teeth is effective way to be as a mindstate when playing competitive sports or martial arts or studying.
    So it is some kind of "Turbo" effect? If that's the only way to think so fast, i might use it only when needed, and add a lot of meditation (simply totall relaxation) to balance it.

    Energy explorations will be done using Energy Medicine. I know that.

    But i've come to find that these little tricks change my state somehow.
    And what is this added glow feeling? Can i obtain it different way?

    P.S. - Forgot to ask - is it the same if i'm just holding the tongue in touch with the soft area under my teeth? While simply relaxing.
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    "Ad" is short for "auditory digital" - which is another way, an nlp way, of saying "internal dialog".

    It actually comes in several different kinds, although most people, even in nlp, don't know that.

    As to the glow, it's almost impossible to tell without me, or anyone suitably experienced on this foum, seeing you, and noticing what you do.

    And/ or you'd need to say more for even a guess to be made.

    For example, is it a glow in your peripheral vision? Or lights around objects? Or lines, and glowing shapes "out there in the world"?

    Or does glow mean something you feel? Does it have the qualities of being light (in weight)? Or heat?

    In any event, what changes your state may not be the little tricks, but something which accompanies the little tricks.

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    I will describe it this way. You see everything in greater detail. You hear much distand sounds. You notice things faster.
    You understand faster. You're more creative, fun and adventerous. You act fast. It is the feeling like every action you do is the right, or at least you believe so. You don't really care that much.
    Ppl note your presence. You become... "alive" in the room. They qualify themselfs for you, they start conversations and basicly react yo you.

    The glow is like joy. From every light that there is.
    When you see a girl - you can see more than just a body. You enjoy her face, her persona.
    Emotions are felt much stronger. And every human being there is beatiful for you - even old grandmas. You can say "Namasate" to everyone.

    Maybe it's just illusion. This happens when i touch my tongue with the soft area under the lower teeth.
    Or maybe i'm boosting some of my chakras.
    It is strange that i prefer Red color when in this "mod".
    ---
    While i like... don't touch my tongue anywhere in the mouth, and basicly relax fully my jaw and my head - i become calm and i can watch the sky sitting in a chair whole day. It is strange that i don't want anything. You don't care for death either.
    As far as my knowledge goes - most likely the second thing is this Power of Now i purchase. Because the idea of Zen is to Die before you die. It is not a "bad" mod. It is neutral.
    Or it could be some sort of dissosiation from mind via denial.

    Idk. The strange thing is that in whichever mod i am - it gets the upper hand. Like it believes it is the "right" one.

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    Well, you won't need to come to any of my classes then. It can take me several days and a lot of work to get some people to that state. And there you are, falling into it naturally.

    As I said before, you don't need any more explanations - explanations won't help you improve on that state, and they may even disturb it, or prevent you getting to it.

    A book you might enjoy is: On Having No Head, by D E Harding.

    BTW, there are some people - Mantak Chia, for example - who would say that putting your tongue to the roof of your mouth is part of "forming the great circle" - but I'd say a few other things have to be happening for that process to be fully up and running.

    And as I said before, this isn't part of "boosting your chakras". That's another mechanism altogether.

    For what it's worth, I don't think you need to improve on what you're doing. Just enjoy it. And feel a little bit of compassion for those who can't - yet - do it as easily as you.

    Eric.

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