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    James Tripp has 3 stars

    Posted: 31st Oct 09, 02:30 pm offline

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    Hypnosis Hand Stick Tutorial


    Hi All

    For those who would like to know, my Hand Stick tutorial is now complete and on my blog in 3 parts. You'll here how I use pacing and leading and Milton language to set up the hypnotic loops, and I am detailing the thinking behind it.

    Enjoy

    James
    www.hypnosiswithouttrance.com

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    Sweet. I have started your tutorial James. Just watched the hypnosis numbers game - approaches to learning. Are you talking to me? Ha ha!!! Seriously though thanks for this, I'm severely geographically isolated at the moment from anything close to quality so this is a perfect starting point for me for the hypnosis side. Failure is something that I suspect permeates through many peoples "problems" as well so experiencing it and learning from it proper rather than just preaching it to clients will sky rocket my congruence as well.
    If I could clarify why. There are many many areas I simply do not mind failing but with hypnosis and certainly mentalism people absolutely love it when you get it wrong. Like its some sort of battle of wills. That is as big a deal for me as it is for anyone who I perceive their task to be quite small. I can then know that if I can overcome a kind of top end fear someone else can, whatever they are trying to achieve that is. Thanks again


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    Hi Alistair

    I am glad you are digging the stuff, and am really appreciating the positive feedback! Thanks also for the tip off on the Jorgen book - I have ordered it and await with great anticipation!

    I reckon I might need to do a video on setting the frames etc. When you say...

    "with hypnosis and certainly mentalism people absolutely love it when you get it wrong. Like its some sort of battle of wills"

    ...for me that is a strong flag that you are probably not quite setting the frames as they need to be - that 'battle of wills' thing really needs to go and be replaced by fascination and a desire on the part of the client/subject to cooperate and experience the 'magic'. All of this is achieved in the set up phase.

    I like to set it up so they really want it to happen, so I will often (but not always) begin by seeding the idea of hypnosis without suggesting that I especially intend to do any. The reason I do this is because I ideally want the prospective subject's curiosity to start driving the interaction - I want it to be about them wanting it from me rather than me wanting to do it to them (if that makes sense).

    Now this will often work to get them asking questions about hypnosis, which you can answer in the most helpful way possible! I tend to explain that hypnosis is about the power of the inner mind, and that people have within them all kinds of wonderful capabilities that they are unaware of, and that hypnosis is about bringing those capabilities out!

    So I start to 'sell' hypnosis too them - but it is a soft sell.

    And some point they may ask to be hypnotised, in which case you are almost ready to go. If they do ask, I will usually say:

    "Sure, we can do a little something right now, just to give you a sense..."

    and I'll often add:

    "it's not really hypnosis but it will give you a sense as to how hypnosis works"

    This is a killer line, because it takes of all the pressure of "being hypnotised" (whatever you say about hypnosis, people will still carry their preconceptions to some degree), while presupposing that hypnosis works and what you are about to do will show you how it works (and therefor, by presupposition works also). Trust me, this line is awesome!

    Then I ask:

    "Would you say that you are an imaginative person?"

    A "yes" is ideal here! "Sometimes" will work - I'll say, "sometimes... "sometimes is good! Are you happy to use your imagination right now?"

    I want a clear an emphatic yes right now! I am looking for what I call 'buy in', so I want an emphatic yes. If I don't get one I will investigate that and be creative in engineering it. If I don't get it, I may well not proceed (depends on how reckless I am feeling). Or I may well ask "would you like to be?" It depends on what I feel they were communicating with their "no" (it could be self doubt about their capability, or it could be reluctance to partake in the process - you need to use your intuition here!).

    Next I will ask:

    "How about concentration? Can you concentrate?"

    Whatever the answer I will follow up with the most appropriate variation on:

    "I need you to be able to concentrate right now, can you do that?"

    Again, I am looking for that emphatic "yes" to indicate 'buy-in'.

    From here I issue a few procedural instructions to monitor compliance (such a dirty word) and segway straight into my opener (which could be the hand stick, or something else).

    Just to be clear, this is one way I might do it. None of these steps are essential by any means, and nothing has to be worded as I word it. What I am always looking to generate/stimulat, however I go about it is:

    1. The subjects curiosity about it.
    2. The subjects desire to experience it.
    3. The subjects 'buy-in' to doing the actual process right now.

    I don't like classic 'pre-talks' because they so often seem to be about selling hypnosis to the subject for the benefit of the hypnotitst. A friend of my recently described my approach as being much more like seduction than persuasion!

    Anyhows, hope that helps. I'll get a video up on the blog about it ASAP.

    Many thanks

    James

    Hypnosis Without Trance

    FREE REPORT - Hypnosis Beyond the Trance Myth
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    Greetings!

    I came across the term "NLP" today, and I had no idea what it meant!
    I am quite a curious person, so I just kept looking for more and more info, and found it all very interesting!

    So, I got to this post, watched the videos, downloaded the document and read it all, and I must say, I'm impressed!

    A few years ago I did try hypnosis a few times, but well, I'm 17 right now and a few years ago means that I was around 13 years old :P So yeah, never found any good information other than "induce them into a trance by talking smoothly to them and then give them orders". So, I just gave up!

    Now I've come across this, and I find it quite interesting! And I would like to start trying it!

    Now, I'd only want to know something... I'll try to find some of the simplest "tricks" to try, but I'd like to know, what's the best kind of people to hypnotize? For example, I feel like if I try it with my sister or a close friend, they'd just be like "hahaha", and extremely skeptical, and therefore I don't know if it can work on them.

    Also, I've always wondered... Can this thinks work on everyone? Because for some reason I've always thought that it wouldn't work on me. For example, the things in the document of the itchy nose or the levitating arm, I tried to concentrate as much as I could, and I couldn't make it work I guess this shows how bad I'm at concentrating >.<

    Anyway, the document is amazing, I'll be reading all of your blog entries, and thanks a lot for everything!

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    Quote jamesrolph wrote: View Post
    Hi Alistair

    I am glad you are digging the stuff, and am really appreciating the positive feedback! Thanks also for the tip off on the Jorgen book - I have ordered it and await with great anticipation!

    I reckon I might need to do a video on setting the frames etc. When you say...

    "with hypnosis and certainly mentalism people absolutely love it when you get it wrong. Like its some sort of battle of wills"

    ...for me that is a strong flag that you are probably not quite setting the frames as they need to be - that 'battle of wills' thing really needs to go and be replaced by fascination and a desire on the part of the client/subject to cooperate and experience the 'magic'. All of this is achieved in the set up phase.

    I like to set it up so they really want it to happen, so I will often (but not always) begin by seeding the idea of hypnosis without suggesting that I especially intend to do any. The reason I do this is because I ideally want the prospective subject's curiosity to start driving the interaction - I want it to be about them wanting it from me rather than me wanting to do it to them (if that makes sense).

    Now this will often work to get them asking questions about hypnosis, which you can answer in the most helpful way possible! I tend to explain that hypnosis is about the power of the inner mind, and that people have within them all kinds of wonderful capabilities that they are unaware of, and that hypnosis is about bringing those capabilities out!

    So I start to 'sell' hypnosis too them - but it is a soft sell.

    And some point they may ask to be hypnotised, in which case you are almost ready to go. If they do ask, I will usually say:

    "Sure, we can do a little something right now, just to give you a sense..."

    and I'll often add:

    "it's not really hypnosis but it will give you a sense as to how hypnosis works"

    This is a killer line, because it takes of all the pressure of "being hypnotised" (whatever you say about hypnosis, people will still carry their preconceptions to some degree), while presupposing that hypnosis works and what you are about to do will show you how it works (and therefor, by presupposition works also). Trust me, this line is awesome!

    Then I ask:

    "Would you say that you are an imaginative person?"

    A "yes" is ideal here! "Sometimes" will work - I'll say, "sometimes... "sometimes is good! Are you happy to use your imagination right now?"

    I want a clear an emphatic yes right now! I am looking for what I call 'buy in', so I want an emphatic yes. If I don't get one I will investigate that and be creative in engineering it. If I don't get it, I may well not proceed (depends on how reckless I am feeling). Or I may well ask "would you like to be?" It depends on what I feel they were communicating with their "no" (it could be self doubt about their capability, or it could be reluctance to partake in the process - you need to use your intuition here!).

    Next I will ask:

    "How about concentration? Can you concentrate?"

    Whatever the answer I will follow up with the most appropriate variation on:

    "I need you to be able to concentrate right now, can you do that?"

    Again, I am looking for that emphatic "yes" to indicate 'buy-in'.

    From here I issue a few procedural instructions to monitor compliance (such a dirty word) and segway straight into my opener (which could be the hand stick, or something else).

    Just to be clear, this is one way I might do it. None of these steps are essential by any means, and nothing has to be worded as I word it. What I am always looking to generate/stimulat, however I go about it is:

    1. The subjects curiosity about it.
    2. The subjects desire to experience it.
    3. The subjects 'buy-in' to doing the actual process right now.

    I don't like classic 'pre-talks' because they so often seem to be about selling hypnosis to the subject for the benefit of the hypnotitst. A friend of my recently described my approach as being much more like seduction than persuasion!

    Anyhows, hope that helps. I'll get a video up on the blog about it ASAP.

    Many thanks

    James

    Hypnosis Without Trance

    FREE REPORT - Hypnosis Beyond the Trance Myth
    James. Its genius on so many levels for me. There are quite a few areas I am apprehensive about practising because I don't want to learn bad habits. This allows me to practice many areas knowing I have a clear reference point to come back to. I am going to use my new code UC signals as well in conjunction as this will allow me to begin push the boundaries of what I can do with them.
    I did it with my friend on Saturday night - it worked I didn't manage to stick it completely but my word was his arm heavy he couldn't hold it up!!! Thanks for the feedback on framing as well. The Jorgen book might not give you totally new ideas for hypnosis but his approach is new, fresh and he gets some serious results. I liked the book so much my cat is called Jorgen (I know... I know). Its so choca block full of techniques I would recommend to everyone although I'm not sure I would go to the lengths he does but results are results at the end of the day...

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    Posted: 3rd Nov 09, 05:27 pm offline

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    Hi Alistair

    Glad to hear you are trying stuff out! If you get the thing where something happens but not quite what you planned take that as your reference point and steer from there.

    For example if the hand doesn't stick, but they say that it is heavy you can use that:

    "that's right, it's heavy and feel that heavy as it gets heavier and heavier (click with each heavier)... until it becomes so heavy that you can try to lift it as it becomes heavier still getting heavier and heavier... what happens when you try to lift it as it gets heavier and heavier...now...as you try?"

    Thank you for your feedback Alistar, it really helps me to know peoples experiences with this stuff so as I can know what people need to know.

    Many thanks and all the very best

    James

    Hypnosis Without Trance

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