Company Name
Tuition
Logistics, PowerPoint & Training Manuals
Pre-Designed Websites
Trainer's Training Manuals
Crew Manuals
Trainers Manuals
One Year Mentoring Program

Topher Morrison, Inc.

$20,000.00

Included
Included
Included
Included
Included
Included

Richard Bandler

$4,200.00

Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered

John Grinder

$7,500.00

Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered

Tad James Companies

$7,000.00

Additional $1,500.00
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered

Empowerment Partnership

$6,300.00

Additional $2,000.00
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered

Performance Partnership

$9,500.00

Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered
Not Offered

Christopher Howard International

$11,995.00

Additional $495.00
Not Offered
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Not Offered

A) Can anyone kindly confirm if these rates are true or false?


I got the rate info from Tophers Morrison website. I am a newbie, learning the ropes. Have a desire to complete all three levels in the next six months and teach NLP. Any help in finding the most economical way of going about the process would be highly appreciated.




B) Which of these organizations above certify and accredit the most number of NLP Master Level Trainers each year? ( I think I heard someone tell me that Tad James does certify the largest number of Trainers? How many enter the field each year on average?


Is the current level worldwide at just 50 Trainers since NLP's inception? Why aren't there more trainers? When did the first Trainer Trainings begin?


C) Are there any Organizations not listed above that do Trainer Trainings? What are their names please?


D) If Richard Bandler charges the most economical rates what does he charge to teach NLP Basic Levels and Master Levels and does anyone have a comparison chart like the one above and can post it for Basic and Master Prac Levels please?



Thanks,

PM

Yikes - good questions! Can't wait to read the posts.

From my very humble viewpoint becoming an NLP trainer isn't done under a timetable - especially short term (6 months I believe you said). Good therapists/counselors, gurus or whatever you want to call them evolve and life experience plays an enormous role in their ability to "help" their clientele or even for personal use.

I have personally experienced the "not so good" helper of all things mental and in my experienced opinion there are more that are destructive, way off the charts, simply bad, than good, reliable, well trained with experiential expertise "guiding" their clients or themselves.

The important thing is to get the right training. And yes the dollars are an important factor, but in the end its the quality of training you receive that should be your aim.

Anyway, off the soapbox - I really appreciate your question and look forward to the posts. And good luck with your training.

Rates seem pretty accurate from what I know.

Topher Morrison, Chris Howard? No disrespect but really just Anthony Robbins wannabes.

Performance Partnership more than the co creators - Richard Bandler & John Grinder, each to their own but I'm not sure who in their right mind would pay almost double to do a Trainers Training with David Shepherd over Bandler or Grinder?

No disrespect to David he is very good and knows a lot but paying double the amount for someone like that over Bandler & Grinder? You could do Trainers Training with BOTH Grinder & Bandler and still save money over Topher, and almost the same as doing it with Chris Howard or David Shepherd.

Tad James certifies the most trainers, the figure is much higher than 50 Worldwide from all organisations!

You have to remember too some people skipped Trainers Training completely yet still Train & certify people! Some in organisations where you have to do it to train people jumped ship to save money & either formed their own organisation or joined one where it is not essential to do.

Regarding Richard Bandlers costs for Pract. & Master Upcoming Events Seminars And Courses | NLP LIFE Training he does same with different organisations also and may be less than rates there.

Regarding you saying 'most economical way' look at the best way for you, try attend some training with one of them then decide whether or not to do all trainings with them. In 6 months anything is possible, and good to have goals but be realistic - where are you now? - your knowledge of NLP , how fast can you learn, dealing with clients any experience, training people dealing with large groups & public speaking what experience, running your own business any experience, charismatic and clear spoken, etc, etc. Lot to consider if you are experienced in all that already, confident in public speaking and charismatic - 6 months maybe who knows, but if you're not then you need to be more realistic with the time period.

Wow, I'm shocked by those prices. I always thought prices would be like $1,000 maximum.

Ah, nevermind. Didn't realize this was for trainers training.

I also would love to know how much practiioner and masters cost in general.

Sharon,

Thank you for the information on becoming an NLP Master Practitoner and doing the Trainer Training courses.

I am a newbie so to me I was unaware it would take more than six months to complete those courses and start teaching NLP.


I am one who wont wait for perfection to appear in me as a teacher......I will keep getting better in better and not wait till I get to Richard Bandler/John Grinder status...and though I admire both greatly John and Richard....I am more than happy to find my own nieche and to grow in my own way.


I have a couple of questions but I will address it in my next post.


Thank you Sharon,



Shalom,


PM

Peter Daniels,


Thank you very much for your post. It was very relevant and I enjoyed clicking on the link you provided me with, which led me to page of Richard Bandler's teachings on NLP and Master Prac NLP courses in London in October 09.


Richard looks younger and seems to have a glow about him. hmmmn.


Peter may I quote you here "You have to remember too some people skipped Trainers Training completely yet still Train & certify people! Some in organisations where you have to do it to train people jumped ship to save money & either formed their own organisation or joined one where it is not essential to do."




A) Is it absolutely essential to to do Trainer Training to certify other people at Master and Prac levels?

B) If you could kindly shed light on which organizations have opted out of the Trainer Trainigs, either privately via my email id here or if its okay point me in that direction publicaly. Its not my intention to harm anyone's reputation. I am just floundering around in the dark seeking answers. Any help would be appreciated.


C) Again, I would only go to these organization if the majority of readers who are certifying people or in the know of how things work, feel that doing the Trainer Training is not really mandatory to certify other people at Master and Practitioner levels.


D) Is there a kind of hierarchy of empowerment to Train people. Say, would it be right to conclude that at the Masters Level one trains the Prac course and at the Trainer level you are certified to train other Practitioners to the Master Level and so on?


E) What is the essential difference between the Master Prac course and the Trainer Training?







Pardon the numerous questions. Thank you for your patience.


PM

Think about what you really want.

Trainers training isn't like Coca Cola. You can go to China and buy Coca Cola and you can go to Brazil and buy Coca Cola and you'll still get pretty much the same Coca Cola. Jersusalem may have Kosher Coca Cola but it still tastes the same. Wherever you go, whatever you pay, if you buy Coca Cola you'll get Coca Cola.

Trainers Training with Richard Bandler will be totally different to Trainers Training with Topher Morrison, for example.

These guys don't even agree about what NLP is, yet alone how to teach it.

So don't just compare the cost and whether you get a pre-designed website included or not. Think about what you actually want to learn and who can teach you that.

My advice is to do at least the Bandler and Grinder programs... then explore more.

If the Wizard of Omaha, Warren Buffet endorses Cherry Coca Cola and drinks it frequently ................he also has one of the largest holdings of that stock.........need I say more!


Thanks Chris, lol... I liked the Cola metaphor........

PM

PS: I still need a few of my question that I asked earlier. Is it mandatory to do any of the trainings such as Trainer Trainings and Master Level Tech to teach NLP Practitoner courses...Or do we need just one of them to qualify to teach? Thanks. PM

Hi,

I am happy to provide you with further information on John Grinder and Carmen training. NLP Academy

Feel free to contact me at the Academy if you wish,
Aidan Walker

Another idea - how about reading everything you can get your hands on from both Bandler and Grinder, the fathers of this process and then read anyone else who sparks an interest in you or that they recommend. You should be able to glean a pretty good sense of whose domain you'd want to train under from that.