I know how to elicit value and place them in a hierachy and i have done this for my self in various contexts like relationships ,wealth, miney etc but I have know idea how to do this for spirituality because i am not spiritaul at all so i was qwondering if anyone has done a Hierarchy of Values of spirituality and what type of words came up so i can have a idea about how to do this for myb self.

I know that the words are supposed to come from your self because they are subjective but i cant evem think of one word or phase that is in portant to me about spirituality.

Try changing the word from spirituality to "Personal mission" or "Vision" or anything that creates for you the notion of something bigger than you

yeah, Sean's got a good point here. the word spiritual is a little semantically overloaded..

another thing to consider is that it's my personal belief that spirituality is largely about deciding your own way of doing things. You can take a lot of advice, but in my personal experience, all of my spiritual realizations have been founded in a deepening relationship with myself.

in fact, that's often the definition given to spirituality -- getting to know your self on progressively deeper levels.

if you're interested in spirituality, I'd say start with that. sit down and just go inside. focus on the desire to explore the spiritual aspect of yourself and just sit with it. ask yourself questions about it.. what it means, what is it, who are you, what ever comes up... or don't ask yourself questions. do what feel natural. perhaps just wait for an intuitive sense for a direction to go in.

IMO sitting quietly like that is #1 as far as spiritual growth in concerned.

tomkeane wrote:

I know that the words are supposed to come from your self because they are subjective but i cant evem think of one word or phase that is in portant to me about spirituality.

I agree that if you want to do this you're going to have to define "spirituality" so that it matters to you. That said, I feel compelled to ask: if it doesn't matter to you already, why bother?

tomkeane wrote:

I know how to elicit value and place them in a hierachy and i have done this for my self in various contexts like relationships ,wealth, miney etc but I have know idea how to do this for spirituality because i am not spiritaul at all so i was qwondering if anyone has done a Hierarchy of Values of spirituality and what type of words came up so i can have a idea about how to do this for myb self.

I know that the words are supposed to come from your self because they are subjective but i cant evem think of one word or phase that is in portant to me about spirituality.

I meant to ask you whether you are using Dilts' neurological levels model in your efforts. If you are then the spirit level (no pun intended) is concerned with anything bigger/greater than you that you are in service to. For some people it's God, for others it's family, for others it's a sense of personal mission. A few years ago I got to talk with someone who met Martin Luther King when she was 18 and that meeting completely changed her life. She has dedicated her life to improving the health of the poor and disadvantaged where she lives in Chicago. That for her is a personal mission that she is in service to and in her opinion it gives her the strength and ability to get all manner of sponsorship and gifts from the rich and powerful in that city.

Spirituality for me is simply a particular type of state close to euphoria. What confuses matters, I think, is that the word has been hijacked by the religious and now has connotations with God or the paranormal.

I find it, on the occasions it happens to me. to be uplifting and inspiring and many, many things can do it. Probably most common is when I go skiing high in the mountains, the birth of my first son was another, seeing the Milky Way (rarely) is one more.

Think back to situations you have been in and have you ever used any of the following words to describe it –

WOW
Awesome
Blimey
Fantastic
Incredible
…
…
…

If not then so be it, you are just you in that case, thank God.

John

What's white and can't climb trees? A fridge

It's not that the vocabulary for this kind of stuff has been hijacked by the religious: it's implicit in some of the words. Enthusiasm for instance, comes from en theos, which means with God. Which doesn't, please note, mean anything to do with any particular church. The abiding feature of these words, and I suggest many of the ones on John's list above, is the sense of being part of something larger than oneself. For which God is as good a name as any.

adrian r wrote:

For which God is as good a name as any.

Not for me I'm afraid.

John

But can you see why others might veer in that direction?

adrian r wrote:

But can you see why others might veer in that direction?

I can if they believe that God exists.

What other explanation for these things would they have?

John