Hi,

How important is it to identify/use meta-program distinctions during change-work, normal communication as well as persuasion? I think change-workers don't always use meta-program distinctions. When does it become imperative to use them? Could you share any personal accounts wherein you had to use them?

Thanks in advance.

Vivek.

I find metaprogrammes very helpful in modelling and sometimes in change work it's useful to model the problem

Sean wrote:

sometimes in change work it's useful to model the problem

Thanks, Sean. Could you please elaborate the above in detail?

Maybe it's just me but there always seems to be so much going on when modelling: strategies/TOTEs, beliefs, analogue distinctions etc etc etc that focusing on identifiable metaprogrammes seems to speed up the rate of progress. As with all tools care is needed for example my away from motivation maybe different from your away from motivation (probably is) and those differences can cause issues with the final model.

SeanOM wrote:

As with all tools care is needed for example my away from motivation maybe different from your away from motivation (probably is) and those differences can cause issues with the final model.

You're absolutely right Sean.
This is especially true because the "away/towards" meta program is not the only driver in the context of motivation and that these things vary from person to person.
For example, someone might be moving away from pain when doing a particular activity but at the same time become motivated to do it because proceeding that way in the past made a difference.
So, up until this point of description, three ways of sorting stand out: "moving away from", "matching" and "past orientation".
Worth noting might also be the possible preference for options instead of procedures and a possible strong internal reference.
Although there's not enough information stated above to clarify that, in a live situation it's worth noticing the possibility and then testing.
It's always a good thing to be thorough whether you're planning on using what you notice directly back on your subject or if you just want quality information out of the elicitation process (especially from the initial test in a strategy).

Hi Y'all

I am a pretty successful NLP changeworker (and have been for a few years now), and for me meta-programmes aren't really something I can find much use for.

They can be sometimes be useful for rough-mapping a behaviour or resource. Of course you end up with a particular kind of map, different to if you had mapped something as a 'strategy' or as a 'mataphor landscape' or from a beliefs perspective (which are all preferred choices for me because I find they yield more usable detail.).

All the best

James