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Discussion: 'how' You 'do' Problem Vs. Finding Root Cause
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    Posted: 30th May 09, 02:34 pm offline

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    'how' You 'do' Problem Vs. Finding Root Cause


    i was just wondering peoples views about whether a problem is best to be addressed with 'how' they 'do' the problem and just ignore any reasons and why they do it vs finding the root cause and resolving it by facing it as an adult with new resources and understandings and also finding positive intentions behind the problem behaviour and maybe avoiding possible consequence problems developing through ignoring it?

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    root cause to all life issues is being born, so that's the root cause- even if you knew the so-called why, you would not be able to change that because its already happened- so the next best place is to know when something is triggered- and then you can change the how you respond.

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    Yes, like never, never, never eat Oreos. That is the root of cause some serious trouble for lots of folks. It tends to make you very tired. And, bingo! Before you know it...you've gained quite a bit of weight and simply can't remember what happened to cause it all! Lol! :-D

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    How would you ever know if the 'issue' you are working with is actually the root cause?

    Michael


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    That's a good question, Michael.

    How would *you* know?

    Venus

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    According to Richard Bandler, NLP was created because looking for the 'why' you have a problem (as in traditional psychotherapy) didn't help solve it in most cases.

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    From a different perspective.... every person has a global structure (interaction between several programs/processes) and that is the "root" cause of what we do and don't do, say and don't say, etc.

    That structure is product of life experiences, genetic programs, etc. We can't change life experiences but we can modify how we interpret them and we can change the existing programs product of that personal history.

    Modifying the symptom helps... but modyfifying the global structure which is the "root" cause of several symptoms is not only possible but desirable.

    Note: If we find the minimum common denominator between behaviors (both good and bad) we can find patterns which allow us to point to "root" causes.

    This is what I've been teaching for a while in programs like Therapeutic Specialist. However for some people that is not NLP... plus, I have been also researching and answering "why" people build structures as they do and I fully understand that is entirely unacceptable in NLP... so I created a different field.

    So, while some might think what I suggest here is not right or not good or not whatever.... there is the possibility of answering why people are as they are and working with the "root" cause which in a way is also how you do several problems.
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    Please see my post at Public Forum here, titled: "Adding Brilliance."

    It shows the path to Finding Root Cause to A problem faced by the Villagers and the wise old-man also the young lad at Khartoum....

    Complete the story, it will see you find the answer you are searching.

    This is for soul searchers only.
    Faint-hearted please stay away from my post,...lolz.

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    Quote nlpfiend wrote: View Post
    i was just wondering peoples views about whether a problem is best to be addressed with 'how' they 'do' the problem and just ignore any reasons and why they do it vs finding the root cause and resolving it by facing it as an adult with new resources and understandings and also finding positive intentions behind the problem behaviour and maybe avoiding possible consequence problems developing through ignoring it?
    I don't know how you find the positive intention without first engaging with the "Why" - which gives you the belief structure, and then chunking up to find the values and positive intention.

    Also you client is likely to want to talk about "Why" and so at least for the sake of rapport it's best not to ignore it. A better reason for not ignoring anything from the client is that everything is potentially a resource.

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    Quote SeanOM wrote: View Post
    Also you client is likely to want to talk about "Why"...
    So explain to them at the beginning of the session that if the problem is eliminated then the why becomes irrelevant

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