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    Andy Smith has 2 stars

    Posted: 13th May 09, 06:48 pm offline

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    The Nocebo Effect


    Fascinating article in New Scientist about how people's beliefs can make them ill or even die in a kind of reverse placebo effect:

    The Science of Voodoo: When mind attacks body


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    Lucia Pinizotti has 2 stars

    Posted: 14th May 09, 12:19 am offline

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    Thanks for the link, Andy. This was a very thought provoking article . . . really enjoyed it.

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    Posted: 14th May 09, 12:02 pm offline

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    And it would stand to reason then, that we have the power within our minds to go in the opposite direction, don't we?

    peace,

    Phil


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    Bridget McKenna has 5 stars

    Posted: 14th May 09, 02:16 pm offline

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    Thanks, Andy - fantastic article that might interest everyone here.


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    David Huntingdon has 2 stars

    Posted: 15th May 09, 01:46 am offline

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    As always, adjust for sensationalism

    Nocebos have some effect. If you want to kill someone with one then injecting them with saline solution and saying its poison may well not work very well. It helps if there is a real effect. But then you may aswel get some real poison.

    And the same with placebo. A real effect makes you feel better, and confidence in the treatment makes it better.

    Influence does not necessarily mean amazing power unless you are on the threshold of real decisions and actions. Just because you hear more positive stories about placebo it doesn't mean that placebo will become stronger for you.

    It exists. It can be predicted within a certain broad range. Expecting it to be a magical pill will not make it so at all. Using it in combination with good timing and other treatments will generally be the way to go.

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    Prof  Sanjay Yadav has 2 stars

    Posted: 15th May 09, 04:57 am offline

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    Andy,
    Voodoo has its roots in "SHAMANISM" and all its--sham or shameful practices. Its akin, to the Indian ancient practices of "KALI-TANTRIC" rites. Where mind hits the body, a barrier into thought gets broken. BLACK-MAGIC or evil arises from all of these aspects. The Hindu pantheon god ---"SHANI DEVA", is a deity for all this happenings. He is supposed to be the son of the SUN GOD, and his mere apect in your natal astrologic chart spells doom in all your working. Comment Nocebo revisited,spiritually speaking.

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