Hi All,

I recently watched an online video clip of a well known trainer delivering some training. I thought that it was pretty awful.

I am wondering, given that this particular trainer appears, sometimes, to have good things said about him, why I would think it so bad.

One of the reasons that I thought up was that in a training, a trainer would spend some time gaining some level of rapport with the group. I would have missed out on that.

If that is a possibility, is it wise for trainers to publish such video?



Stephen

That's why a lot of trainers don't put their videos on YouTube.

We have a videos section here - with feeds from YouTube - and I would love to see that section grow. But I also understand why some trainers are wary of putting their material out there for all to see. They know that once it's taken out of its original context and transferred to "a YouTube clip", then it can - and most likely will - be judged by people who don't have the full picture or know the full story.

I don't think anyone can get across the sophisticated flavour of a five-day training in a five-minute video clip. There will always be some loss.

What prerequisites did all the people in the room have that we don't have? (Including not only what previous training had they done but also what kind of thinking processes and programming do they have that got them to respond to certain adverts and want to go on a certain kind of training, in a certain place and at a certain time?) What anchors, short-term operating beliefs and presuppositions were set up for the context of that training room? What was the experience/energy like for the people in the audience, compared to us sitting outside the room and peeking in, watching the video from a funny angle and with different distractions around us? Is the sound quality sufficient that you can hear half tone shifts that mark things out? All this and more.

The irony is that it's usually the best trainers who are aware of their limitations and the pragmatics of training. It's those with more confidence than competence who rush in and show off, unaware of the message they're really sending out.

Hey, I resemble those remarks!

A little while ago, the video section of this site included some videos of me. I don't know how long they were there, and as soon as I became aware that they were there I asked Chris if he could remove them - for exactly the kinds of reasons he has outlined above.

Those videos were taken from a three day course I did some time ago, and I stuck them on youtube to embed in a hidden page on my website which was only accessible to the people who had actually been there on that course.

So I was perfectly happy to offer those videos as refreshers for the people who had been there ... but there are a bunch of factors that come into play when a broader audience is involved:

For a start, youtube clips are limited to ten minutes, so it's rare to get even a single complete 'piece' of the training in that time frame.

Then there's the fact that part of my training style involves getting very informal very fast, and cultivating and referring to ongoing 'conversations' between myself and everyone in the room - so I'm frequently referencing back to things that emerged in those conversations. If you weren't there and weren't a part of those conversations, those references won't mean anything to you.

Then of course there's the fact that I'm always working to the outcomes generated by each participant ... and then there's ... and then there's ...

So as I said to Chris, I'm very happy to have videos posted on NLP Connections (I have heaps of stuff on video) - but I'd want to make sure that they were suitable for public viewing by people who weren't there and don't have the framing, etc.

And of course, that's assuming that anybody would want to see videos of me in the first place - LOL

While I can't speak for others, time frames are a tricky issue, IMO. Too long and nobody wants to watch - too short and too much contextual information gets deleted. C'est la vie, I guess!

Cheers,

James T

Hi James

Not that its worth anything much, Yet I thought you came over has a very solid, very personable and enjoyable presenter, and even though the roller coaster video was very short, I thought you came over very well.

Jay

Thanks Jay.