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    Posted: 30th Jan 09, 04:54 pm offline

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    Visual Anchors


    hello everybody, i'm new around here and i've been learning to apply nlp in my own life, however i'm interested in applying it to other people. I read in a post about sliding anchors that you can anchor something like laughter to a glass. then as you push it closer to another person their state becomes more intense. Would somebody be willing to tell me how they would go about anchoring somebody to an object. For instance laughter to a glass. thank you

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    When talking to a person, for example your hair dresses. They like to chat, and everyone likes to chat about their own experiences. When the person talks about something they find exciting, anchor this emotion to you rubbing your chin, or whatever. Build on the anchor everytime they get excited over what they are talking about.Later and it can be years later, when you see that person again, rub your chin and this triggers off the associated link to excitement that you previously anchored within their mind. They then wrongly assocated this excitement to seeing you and therefore feels excited with seeing you. An easy way to get someone to fall for you.
    Always wait utill the person is in the emotion state that you want them i.e excited. then push the glass forwards. each time they get excited move it closer, however you must make this look like a subconscious act and not a conscious one. If the person is consciously aware of the glass moving then you will not create a powerful anchor.
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    Quote Dave Holland "If the person is consciously aware of the glass moving then you will not create a powerful anchor."

    Why not?

    Quote Dave Holland "Always wait utill the person is in the emotion state that you want them i.e excited. then push the glass forwards. each time they get excited move it closer"

    Don't you move the glass forewards and backwards according to the intesity of the state when setting a 'sliding' anchor?

    Cheers

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    Quote Dave Holland "If the person is consciously aware of the glass moving then you will not create a powerful anchor."

    Why not? because the person will be aware of what you are doing and therefore the anchor will not work on a subconscious level.

    Quote Dave Holland "Always wait utill the person is in the emotion state that you want them i.e excited. then push the glass forwards. each time they get excited move it closer"

    Don't you move the glass forewards and backwards according to the intesity of the state when setting a 'sliding' anchor?

    well yes of course, but thats another matter. what you are getting at is in affect breaking the anchor of the emotional state you want and then compounding it when the state is in place again.

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    Posted: 31st Jan 09, 03:43 pm offline

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    mate,

    1. As a trainer, have you ever demonstrated working with anchors that have worked on a 'subconscious' level as you were explaining what you were doing as you were doing it?

    2. What I am getting at is anchoring the intensity of the 'emotional state' as a sliding anchor because what you described is neither 'sliding' or 'stacking' anchors as understood.


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    I explain anchors on a conscious level to a student of how i create them on a subconscious level with a client. the client is not aware that a anchor has been created have they? unless told of course. we all work differently, except it. for instance the client i swore at did not know they had created a anchor did they? no, but i did
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    So you are not full of crap, as an nlp trainer, mate

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    Hi Dave,

    Is there an issue in how the glass is moved away ? Surely if removed in a consistent manner there is a risk of anchoring a deteriorating state everytime it is moved away ?

    Confused a little

    MH

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    moving the class away could have a negative effect of what you want to create. it would not look natural keep moving it forwards and back. in fact the class idea is not one that i would use at all. i would place my hand on the table and raise a finger every time the person was in the state i wanted, then put it down when they are not. eye contact is important so that you know they are not consciously aware of what you are doing. once created, next time you see the person, wave at them by raising the same finger and the person gets excited.

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    Quote Dave Holland "mate dont bother reading it, delete it. enough said." 26 January 09. Thread: Hi, I'm a Trainer and Have Written a Book

    The fact remains, Dave, everything you do is anchoring someone elses state so the best anchor to use is your own state to anchor an emotion. Anything you can do that is unique to the persons state, and better the intensity of that state, will be a good anchor as long as it is unique. Of course it is even better if you don't just anchor visually.

    I can think of two main ways to use a glass as an anchor.
    1. Spatially as you are suggesting.
    2. The site of the glass as a digital anchor so it is seeable when they are in the intense moments of the state.

    I agree that it is good to be able to anchor out of awareness but it is not necessary as you claimed.

    James

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