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Discussion: Moved: Michael Jackson Thread/ Expressing Opinions
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    tony west has 0 reputation points

    Posted: 3rd Jul 09, 07:56 pm offline

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    Quote chris_morris wrote: View Post
    You called Matt an idiot.

    This forum is read by thousands of people. I want it to be a pleasant environment for everyone. Name calling, and generally showing disrespect, is against the rules of using the free facilities here... so please either make it so you don't want to behave in that way, or just don't behave in that way.
    So, what you're saying is, if I feel someone is foolish, I should not express my opinion. OK. Will do.

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    Posted: 3rd Jul 09, 09:04 pm offline

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    Re: Michael Jackson. So Many Anchors.

    I must admit it has been fascinating watching this unfold, despite urges to jump in a have my say I have enjoyed watching and learnt a great deal from the discussion.

    I would say thanks to Chris for defending my honor but ultimatly this conversation I guess was all about keeping the forum a pleasant place to be. Thanks anyway Chris and all others who made it possible for me to become passive in the conversation, I am sure it would have dragged on and escalated if I had continued.

    Tony, I thought about PM'ing you and offering you whatever words you wanted to hear just to move on, it is so interesting to hear your thoughts on our relationship, both past and present, don't take this the wrong way but you do not mean that much to me! You are getting angry, frustrated or whatever emotion you are feeling all by yourself, it is very interesting to hear feedback on your subjective experience of our interaction. I banter with you on a web forum, a web forum which is on to debate NLP and related topics which in itself brings about heated discussion. I guess you must rate my opinion in order for it to mean so much to you, seriously buddy, just take a deep breath and appreciate I have more control over your state of mind than you do! I do remember a quote before in which you mentioned about being able to disagree without being disagreeable and that has stuck with me. I learnt from you and moved on. I have read and reread my comments about Michael Jackson and I really do not see how I became an "idiot", have you been thinking about me even when we are not chatting on here? Shame on you if you let me get under your skin, where is your state management?

    I am willing to offer you any peace offering you want, that is not said with tongue in cheek but a genuine offer to make both of our experinces of this site more enjoyable. I feel slightly flattered to have got under your skin as I will admit that at times it has been my intention to do precisely that and I am sure you will not appreciate either of us having to dumb down our passions in our discussions, so, how do you want to move on from here?

    You can express you opinion, please note the differences in the comments below, one is expressing an opinion and the other is just rude (and makes the writer look more of an idiot than the person who the comment it being aimed at). You got your wrists slapped for calling me an idiot and I got away with implying your knowledge comes from the tabloids, calling you a retard, an idiot and I got a thumbs up for the post! Your instant and aggressive reaction left you unable to defend your side of the argument with any dignity.



    "You are an idiot"


    "if you do believe in the tabloid crap then maybe he just thought - fuck you retards- believe what you want"

    Tony, I think you are foolish, neverEVER let anyone control your mind, I'll have you selling me a car at a knock down price next, (or will that be you selling me a car at what I believe is a knock down price?) Either way, in one hand I have a wad of notes and I am offering you a drink and hanging out a hand for you to shake, your move Tony.


    Chris, I thought about sending you this post via PM to see if you want me to let this conversation die out and all move on but then I thought if Tony takes this in the was it is intended then a useful conversation may come out of it. If you (Chris) or Tony has any issue with it then please delete it and I will never go russianbear baiting again.

    Thanks,

    Matt


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    Added, I have just noticed that both Tony and Chris are offline, in their absence, if Jon, Jen or any other or the good people on here object to my post, PM me and I'll take this straight off
    Last edited by Redsimo; 3rd Jul 09 at 09:24 pm.

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    Jenny Waller has 385 reputation points

    Posted: 3rd Jul 09, 09:21 pm offline

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    Tony, there is a difference between disagreeing with someones opinion and resorting to name calling.

    I guess not posting is one option, though it seems rather limiting to me. I'd suggest you simply find your way of expressing your opinion without resorting to name calling.


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    Jenny Waller has 385 reputation points

    Posted: 3rd Jul 09, 09:32 pm offline

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    Moved: Michael Jackson Thread/ Expressing Opinions

    I have moved some posts that had gone off topic from the original post in the chill out forum.


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    Re: Moved: Michael Jackson Thread/ Expressing Opinions

    There's a difference between stating a fact and name-calling.

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    Quote Redsimo wrote: View Post
    I must admit it has been fascinating watching this unfold, despite urges to jump in a have my say I have enjoyed watching and learnt a great deal from the discussion.

    I would say thanks to Chris for defending my honor but ultimatly this conversation I guess was all about keeping the forum a pleasant place to be. Thanks anyway Chris and all others who made it possible for me to become passive in the conversation, I am sure it would have dragged on and escalated if I had continued.

    Tony, I thought about PM'ing you and offering you whatever words you wanted to hear just to move on, it is so interesting to hear your thoughts on our relationship, both past and present, don't take this the wrong way but you do not mean that much to me! You are getting angry, frustrated or whatever emotion you are feeling all by yourself, it is very interesting to hear feedback on your subjective experience of our interaction. I banter with you on a web forum, a web forum which is on to debate NLP and related topics which in itself brings about heated discussion. I guess you must rate my opinion in order for it to mean so much to you, seriously buddy, just take a deep breath and appreciate I have more control over your state of mind than you do! I do remember a quote before in which you mentioned about being able to disagree without being disagreeable and that has stuck with me. I learnt from you and moved on. I have read and reread my comments about Michael Jackson and I really do not see how I became an "idiot", have you been thinking about me even when we are not chatting on here? Shame on you if you let me get under your skin, where is your state management?

    I am willing to offer you any peace offering you want, that is not said with tongue in cheek but a genuine offer to make both of our experinces of this site more enjoyable. I feel slightly flattered to have got under your skin as I will admit that at times it has been my intention to do precisely that and I am sure you will not appreciate either of us having to dumb down our passions in our discussions, so, how do you want to move on from here?

    You can express you opinion, please note the differences in the comments below, one is expressing an opinion and the other is just rude (and makes the writer look more of an idiot than the person who the comment it being aimed at). You got your wrists slapped for calling me an idiot and I got away with implying your knowledge comes from the tabloids, calling you a retard, an idiot and I got a thumbs up for the post! Your instant and aggressive reaction left you unable to defend your side of the argument with any dignity.



    "You are an idiot"


    "if you do believe in the tabloid crap then maybe he just thought - fuck you retards- believe what you want"

    Tony, I think you are foolish, neverEVER let anyone control your mind, I'll have you selling me a car at a knock down price next, (or will that be you selling me a car at what I believe is a knock down price?) Either way, in one hand I have a wad of notes and I am offering you a drink and hanging out a hand for you to shake, your move Tony.


    Chris, I thought about sending you this post via PM to see if you want me to let this conversation die out and all move on but then I thought if Tony takes this in the was it is intended then a useful conversation may come out of it. If you (Chris) or Tony has any issue with it then please delete it and I will never go russianbear baiting again.

    Thanks,

    Matt


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    Added, I have just noticed that both Tony and Chris are offline, in their absence, if Jon, Jen or any other or the good people on here object to my post, PM me and I'll take this straight off
    Quite the ego.

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