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    Does McCain Have a Chip on His Shoulder? Is Obama talking Baracks?

    No real thread, just occured to me there has been no talk of erections here.

    Don't vote - it only encouraes them.

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    Quote vincenzo wrote: View Post
    No real thread, just occured to me there has been no talk of erections here.

    Don't vote - it only encouraes them.
    I noticed that in the last debate both candidates tried to convince the audience that they had a nude erection for the country.


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    Re: Does McCain Have a Chip on His Shoulder? Is Obama talking Baracks?

    Ohh just found this on tinernet

    http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27...s_Speeches.pdf

    Here is the first page (of 60!)

    THE EVIDENCE IS HERE: This document contains over 60 pages of evidence
    and analysis proving Barack Obama’s use of a little-known and highly deceptive
    and manipulative form of “hack” hypnosis on millions of unaware Americans,
    and reveals what only a few psychologists and hypnosis/NLP experts know.
    Barack Obama’s speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a
    form of “conversational” hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients
    without their knowledge for therapy purposes. Obama’s speeches intentionally contain:

    Obama’s techniques are the height of deception and psychological manipulation, remaining hidden because
    one must understand the science behind the language patterns in order to spot them. This document
    examines Obama’s speeches word by word, hand gesture by hand gesture, tone, pauses, body language, and
    proves his use of covert hypnosis intended only for licensed therapists on consenting patients. Obama’s
    mesmerized, cult-like, grade-school-crush-like worship by millions is not because “Obama is the greatest
    leader of a generation” who simply hasn’t accomplished anything, who magically “inspires” by giving
    speeches. Obama is committing perhaps the biggest fraud and deception in American history.
    Obama is not just using subliminal messages, but textbook covert hypnosis and neuro-linguistic
    programming techniques on audiences that are intentionally designed to sideline rational judgment and
    implant subconscious commands to think he is wonderful and elect him President. Obama is eloquent.
    However, Obama’s subconscious techniques are shown to elicit powerful emotion from his audience and
    then transfer those emotions onto
    him, to sideline rational judgment, and implant hypnotic commands that
    we are unaware of and can’t even consciously question. The polls are misleading because some of Obama’s
    commands are designed to be triggered only in the voting booth on November 4th. Obama is immune to
    logical arguments like Wright, Ayers, shifting every position, character, and inexperience, because hypnosis
    affects us on an unconscious and emotional level. To many people who see this unaccomplished man’s
    unnatural and irrational rise to the highest office in the world as suspicious and frightening and to those who
    welcome it, this document uncovers, explains, and proves the deceptive tactics behind true “Obama
    Phenomenon” including why younger people are more easily affected.


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    As someone pointed out in a discussion of this article on the "Skeptics Dictionary" thread, the article itself is an example of an attempt at covert persuasion.

    My personal take is that the article misses the point that most of the jargon of NLP is devised to describe our usual, daily, overt usage of language. You can point to presuppositions or examples of deletion, distortion and generalization in almost any sample of written or spoken language. It doesn't mean that something sneaky and scary is going on.

    In fact, I think this article tells us more about the author's own fears than anything about Obama.

    Two other points:

    - If Obama does have some NLP training - one would think that a president with the abilities negotiate in our best interests, control his own state under pressure, make decisions, and so on would be in the "good stuff" column.

    - He's a kick-ass motivator. He makes Tony Robbins look small-time. Obama is a prime candidate for some real modeling.

    Anyway... about the article:

    The polls are misleading because some of Obama’s commands are designed to be triggered only in the voting booth on November 4th.

    Is THAT what happened? I swear I was going in there to vote for the old guy with the Stepford Wife for a running mate... and... the next thing I knew I was voting for Obama... and I haven't been able to listen to Sean Hannity since then, either. Is there an NLP technique to fix that?

    Obama is immune to logical arguments like Wright, Ayers, shifting every position, character, and inexperience, because hypnosis affects us on an unconscious and emotional level.

    This sentence has affected me on an unconscious and emotional level. I feel a little queasy and like I want to vote for Obama all over again. And now I want to watch Jon Stewart, too.

    To many people who see this unaccomplished man’s unnatural and irrational rise to the highest office in the world as suspicious and frightening and to those who welcome it, this document uncovers, explains, and proves the deceptive tactics behind true “Obama Phenomenon” including why younger people are more easily affected.

    Thousands of elementary school kids turned up at my polling place. Now I know why! No... wait... the polling place WAS an elementary school...


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    Re: Does McCain Have a Chip on His Shoulder? Is Obama talking Baracks?

    This is hillarious!!!

    Obama is a great communicator... assuming the intention of his communication was to get lots of people to vote for him in order to become President. Just my guess of course

    In stead he should just sit in a chair, completely mute, maybe drooling. That way he'll be on an equal footing with his rivals.

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